Weight Loss Thread

ubiquitrips

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But I'll never be the guy who goes to the gym or lifts or anything like that.
Don't be so sure. I said the same things 2 years ago. I just wanted to drop some pounds, get skinnier and healthier, etc. I started small, enough to lose weight and then things just started escalating. If you find something you truly enjoy doing, you will make time for it and want to improve. I went from a mentality similar to this to almost being done with my first bulk phase. If you would have told me this is what my life would be like when I started I would not have believed. For some, it just takes longer than others. The key is consistent gradual change.

It also should be said that I'm married. So I'm doing this purely for myself and not in an attempt to pick up chicks. I'm not claiming that anyone here is going the hardcore fitness route for that but I'd be willing to bet that's at least one factor for those not married or in a serious relationship. I won't speak for others but since getting married my outlook has changed on things like that.
Being married is exactly why this should not be for yourself. Exercise and activity isn't just to look alpha and attract ladies. It is to prolong your life and enable you to have a 'higher' quality of life. I quoted higher because living an active lifestyle has to be considered higher for you personally, otherwise that point is moot. However, extending your life and being with your significant other for longer, in better shape, cannot be understated. Again, for me, knowing that my wife isn't worrying (secretly or otherwise) about my health makes me feel better in general. Besides, it is fun having conversations with your wife about how she needs to start regulating the looks other women are giving. Helps the self esteem to know that you still have it, married or not.
 

Tenks

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I feel like a lazy piece of dogshit if I don't lift at least twice a week. I start thinking I'm looking like a flabby asshole then I see a fatass walking past me and I'm like "Holy fuck if I don't work out that is literally me" and then I goto the gym. I've never worked out for anyone other than myself. Honestly I started working out because I realized it cleared my head. I'd study, work out, then study some more. It let the shit sink in. If I had any emotional problems going on it gave me 45 minutes of absolute brain shut-off where I could realistically dissect the problem and come to a decision. Though when I was 20 or so I worked out mostly because I wasprobabllyclinically depressed and I found something that gave me real-life in-the-flesh gains and changes in my life.
 

Cad

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But I'll never be the guy who goes to the gym or lifts or anything like that. I like walking and that's working for me. Two or three miles a day on the the treadmill or two or three miles walking around the neighborhood when weather permits and that's good for me. It gives me time to think or watch TV with the treadmill.
I mean, if you just want to do things that objectively don't work, thats fine. Walking burns very few calories per hour because your body is very efficient at it. It also doesn't really engage any muscle groups.

If you control your diet (eat less carbs, eat more protein) and lift 3 hours a week, you'd see results. There's a moderation between IT guy lardass and gym rat. And lifting is bar none the best way to look fit.
 

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Think I'm just going to drop this thread. I'm doing what works for me and what I enjoy doing. It might not be the "right" way but I'm down 20 lbs over the last month and still making progress.

Thanks for those that did offer support and motivation though.
 

Agraza

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Walking burns more calories than lifting for most people. Cardio is very efficient at burning calories, and walking is great if you need something low intensity. Lifting will shift your BMR (improve your metabolism) over time making your effort more efficient, but it's a very slow increase. Investing hours toward metabolic improvement isn't time-efficient to lose weight, but helps you keep it off over the long term. Don't overthink it so long as you're making progress. You're doing fine.

And don't forget to take some shirtless pics now so you can look back in a year and thank yourself for making a change. You'll like the way you look, I guarantee it.

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Eidal

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tldr; walking for any health/fitness/aesthetic reasons isn't a logical choice.

No amount of walking will undo bad dietary choices, such as those that led to overweight/obesity in the first place. Frankly, if walking is a genuinely entertaining activity then one should do it -- but one ought to be informed that there won't be any tangible results after the first few weeks. Compare walking calories/hour (100ish?) to sitting calories/hour (75ish?) -- maybe 25 percent more? I could walk three hours at a vigorous pace and accidentally eat all those calories back by mismeasuring my cooking oil for one meal.

The reason people are critical of such a low-key endeavor is because they're comparing it to the absolutely drastic changes one can do with weight training,even if you really don't want to try too hard. I'd expect to take a totally untrained man into the gym and have him double his strength in a matter of weeks; and over three months he'd gain 5-10lbs of muscle, depending on how hard he pushed himself in the gym. Totally noticeable in terms of definitionand posture. Even lazily lifting 3 hours a week will pack muscle on (in the first year). Walking won't accomplish anything other than make someone think they're being productive.

Obviously, to each their own -- if dood says he'll never do it then that's his call to make. I think we're all just saying ("You sure about that, man? It isn't that bad and it's staggering how fast the benefits manifest themselves.") Plus, in my experience, most people saying they don't want to engage in something like weight training haven't ever done it, they're just opposed on principle. It isn't an informed choice.
 

McCheese

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Dude is controlling his food intake and being more active. Good on him! If he does more at some point, great. If not, he is still being healthier than most and doing good for his health. Not everyone wants to lift weights, and there are plenty of people who have actually tried it and didn't like it.

This forum is full of min maxing mmo nerds so what do you expect.
 

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Dude is controlling his food intake and being more active. Good on him! If he does more at some point, great. If not, he is still being healthier than most and doing good for his health. Not everyone wants to lift weights, and there are plenty of people who have actually tried it and didn't like it.

This forum is full of min maxing mmo nerds so what do you expect.
It's not exactly min maxing to advise someone to spend their time doing something that actually works.
 

McCheese

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It's not exactly min maxing to advise someone to spend their time doing something that actually works.
If someone's goal is to lose weight and be healthier, increasing activity and controlling diet is more than enough.
 

Cad

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If someone's goal is to lose weight and be healthier, increasing activity and controlling diet is more than enough.
The eating part yes, walking is just literally useless unless you are morbidly obese or 70 years old.
 

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What's a good, inexpensive, shoe for the treadmill? I'm m trying to do 2 to 4 miles a day but I really need better shoes for it. We're heading into winter in Cleveland so it's not as easy to do laps around the neighborhood.
P.S. aren't you glad you're eating that comment now? WTF is this shit, maybe this comment belongs in the weather thread, but god damn, I love el nino or whatever the fuck this is.

And yea, totally think you should still give weight lifting a try,Beginner Workout Routine - Weight Training For Beginners

It'll take about 30 minutes, 3 times a week. And you'll end up burning a couple hundred calories, Cad is right, in terms of absolute calories burned, for least amount of effort, weight lifting is king.

Log In - The New York Times

It's a few years old, but the New York Times article is well researched and has good science backing it up.

What Burns More Calories: Cardio, Intervals, or Weight Training? | Nerd Fitness
 

Rezz

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Walking itself isn't bad, but it also isn't really that good. That's pretty much the only real issue with it. It's more of a placebo than any sort of intentional weight loss mechanic. Even a light jog is substantially superior.

There can be reasons why people don't get into weight lifting, and it's fine to have reasons. But realize that unless your heart rate gets to a certain point, you aren't really doing "cardio," and unless you have some fairly serious medical problems, your heart rate just isn't going to get to that point by walking alone. The only real time walking is the best answer is if your muscles are atrophying/you have major heart issues and it's more just to loosen the muscles fibers as opposed to really trying to get weight off. Not even min-maxing, just the difference between walking and not walking at all is pretty minuscule, and unless the above medical reasons are true, your time could be better spent doing almost literally anything else hah.
 

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Walking is substantially superior to doing nothing. Its healthy mentally and physically. It can also be a large part of total motivation that keeps people on track with a diet. The point isn't whether lifting weight or heavier cardio is better but to claim someones wasting time walking is pretty dumb.
 

Tenks

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I'm a big fan of walking. An issue I have with running is while I'm running all I can think about is "God I hate running." When I'm walking (generally with my dog) I can throw on some sports talk, political talk or a podcast and just listen to it and really relax. Another thing I like is I can walk around and not feel an energy crash like I sometimes get after running where I feel I need to eat something. I can go for a walk and just come home and drink some water and be cool.
 

McCheese

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The eating part yes, walking is just literally useless unless you are morbidly obese or 70 years old.
This is just a silly thing to say. Walking burns calories like any exercise, even if it isn't an enormous amount compared to other activities. As an anecdotal example, when I moved to the center of a city I lost a considerable amount of weight without changing my diet or doing any other exercise simply due to the fact that I was walking 45 minutes to work and 45 minutes home five days a week. I wasn't morbidly obese, either. I think I started around 215 - 220 and ended up at 190ish (at 6 foot 1).

Walking might not be ideal for everyone, but to say it is "literally useless" is completely untrue.
 

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I am a fan of the golden rule -- if I showed up in this thread with some retard scheme to improve my looks, and told you all I was going to consume hundreds of dollars of oral steroids, bulk from 25 to 30 percent body fat, and work my way up to 100 dumbbell presses a day I'd hope for and expect you all to encourage me to explore other avenues.

Walking is better than doing nothing, but when your self-improvement plan is being compared to doing nothing...
 

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When you're that overweight and out of shape to begin with, doing literally anything different will net you some results. He probably wanted high fives and a bunch of meaningless platitudes for doing the bare minimum and losing a little water weight. When confronted with reality, he took his ball and went home. Just like every other failed dieter ever.
 

Rezz

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His diet appears to be working (even though 50% means he was eating like a powerlifter but pushing papers all day prior) and he's losing weight. The walking might keep him out of the fridge but it's just not an effective tool for weight loss. Better than sitting and eating Ben and Jerry's? Definitely! But doing just about any mildly athletic activity is going to be, and probably better.
 

Cad

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I think he'd probably burn more calories jerking it than walking assuming he watches some boring porn so it takes 10-15 minutes to finish. Switch hands now and then so your right forearm doesn't get too swole.

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Agraza

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Y'all need to dial that shit down. Someone just starting to address their fitness from years of poor habits doesn't need elitist faggotry, especially not in this sub-forum. He's already seeing improvements, and if/when he plateaus he may change gears and embrace more activity. The most important part of improving your fitness is understanding how your body works and paying attention to your diet. He could forgo exercising entirely and still lose weight if he practices portion control, which he is. We have alifting threadif y'all really need to go be douchebags in a forum appropriate for it.