Titan_Atlas
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World of Warcraft: Current Year
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Exactly! Though, EQ2 had a better world in my opinion. Azeroth looks boring as shit but that is all opinion.
As another former WoW player, I don't think really anything will get me to go back permanently. But you're basically removing the best part of WoW, the polished questing part where you see the gimmicks, the humor and the fun new areas (storyline if you care), in order to emphasize stuff that generally sucks. If WoW could really be 100% questing with raids interspersed (boss fights in the game) it honestly would be great. But this means that the raid is only played once to complete the quest, and the quests mostly have to be soloable (read: easy) and unless they're quite grindy (people don't like that) they will be done fast and we run out of content in almost same amount of time that a normal game does, which of course is completely unacceptable for an MMO.
Anyway I have some spare time:
Didn't you just suggest that we get rid of the level increase and remove new leveling zones? Why are you now suggesting adding more quests? Super long class quest lines are generally inefficient uses of developer time because few people make it to the end. Why not just make the leveling experience more difficult, requiring small group or tough solo content?
It is impossible to keep something hidden in this age of wowhead etc. I would personally like to see future games use encryption or keep as much data serverside as possible to diminish this effect as it really kills the environment. You think having to farm a random-drop item in order to do the main quest content of an expansion is a good mechanic?
WPvP areas can be OK, but really they have just been battlegrounds that happen only at certain times. Not super interesting.
I would much rather Blizzard focus on providing another awesome world for gamers to explore, where the grass is green and the experiences new again. Player controlled territory with NPC empires waging war across the landscape. EvE meets fantasy, resources in difficult to control deserts with weak supply chains to the safe carebear markets where the crafters live, honor system and gear for leveling up the ranks of your nation's army as it fights for glory in battlegrounds, treasure held by dragons in the perilous mountains requiring expeditions, quest-based theme parks and pet collection/farming/magic-ing/etc. minigames in the safe empire. Completely new leveling model (or at least heavily hybridized), new economic/crafting model (or again copied with some modification from elsewhere), combat possibly similar, new world. I'd buy it.
Anyway I have some spare time:
Stupid gimmicks unless it is tied to some sort of territory control (or any fun gameplay mechanic if you have a better one). This is essentially a better UI for the achievements screen. Not going to resub for this.
So ... I would resub to play raids that I already did before, and you're taking out actual new content to implement this? Genius!
They do all this already in each expansion.
Didn't you just suggest that we get rid of the level increase and remove new leveling zones? Why are you now suggesting adding more quests? Super long class quest lines are generally inefficient uses of developer time because few people make it to the end. Why not just make the leveling experience more difficult, requiring small group or tough solo content?
It is impossible to keep something hidden in this age of wowhead etc. I would personally like to see future games use encryption or keep as much data serverside as possible to diminish this effect as it really kills the environment. You think having to farm a random-drop item in order to do the main quest content of an expansion is a good mechanic?
WPvP areas can be OK, but really they have just been battlegrounds that happen only at certain times. Not super interesting.
Camping rares is already in the game, but I wanted to point out that this isn't something remotely appetizing and I would hate to see a game that thinks 'adding rare spawns' is going to bring people back. PvP raids were done all the time back when killing city bosses was huge honor and got you the best weaps in the game. I don't think that having towns wrecked constantly by people looking for drops would be particularly awesome - what is the motive for defending? World bosses would be much better ... but these also have issues. AAs sound terrible and I would never resub to a game that had AAs, it would just mean I could never catch up.
Because one person makes a difference in a 40-man BG? The amount of matches you would have to play for a meaningful ranking is quite high. Not to mention things like class composition or gear which aren't an issue in MOBA type games. This could be interesting but I doubt it could really be done well. I do agree top gladiators should get fuck-you gear that automatically gives them victory against scrubs ... but that's the vanilla/TBC pvper in me talking rather than the person who was faced with grinding a month of honor to get back in the game + arenaing with a new random partner and decided to quit instead.
This might get me to keep subbed had I been playing, but really having a new xmas event matters to you? I honestly didn't visit the darkmoon faire ever. Playing a TCG isn't playing wow, why would I resub for $15 a month to play a TCG instead of buying the TCG? Again these are things that get people who are subbed to keep going but really aren't going to get jaded players back in.
They just introduced a new class and do this regularly, but certainly adding a quest line first could be cool (it would have to be easy though since they want people to play the new class). They already do class-specific intro lines obviously. Bounty system from NPCs == random spawn daily quest, about as boring as it gets. Having players place them is a neat idea, but in a game where death doesn't matter whatsoever it's really pointless.
I would much rather Blizzard focus on providing another awesome world for gamers to explore, where the grass is green and the experiences new again. Player controlled territory with NPC empires waging war across the landscape. EvE meets fantasy, resources in difficult to control deserts with weak supply chains to the safe carebear markets where the crafters live, honor system and gear for leveling up the ranks of your nation's army as it fights for glory in battlegrounds, treasure held by dragons in the perilous mountains requiring expeditions, quest-based theme parks and pet collection/farming/magic-ing/etc. minigames in the safe empire. Completely new leveling model (or at least heavily hybridized), new economic/crafting model (or again copied with some modification from elsewhere), combat possibly similar, new world. I'd buy it.
alavaz
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In my opinion there is really only one way to play WoW: Find a guild that has active members and group up for most of the content. Sure inevitably there will be some times where you play solo to do dailies for tokens, LFR/heroics for valor, farming, etc. but for the most part this game is way better grouped up. Obviously the hardest part is probably finding a guild that fits with you / you fit in with, but I didn't have too much trouble just going to wowprogress and checking out all of the guilds that raid during my time frame and on days that worked for me.
Well that's it. Garrosh is full blown corrupted, absolving him of any wrongdoing. Praise be to Thrall!
Rime
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At one point, they said that Garrosh would not be corrupted, that some bosses were just bad apples.
I am hoping that Garrosh is two fights or at least two distinct phases. We kill him while he is 'normal', then the Old God takes control of his body/animates it..
ALSO, just added to the PTR slate for 5.4...
New Feature: Virtual Realms
Virtual Realms are sets of realms that are fused together, and will behave exactly as if they were one cohesive realm. Players on the same Virtual Realm will be able to join guilds, access a single Auction House, join arena teams and raids, as well run dungeons or group up to complete quests.
Players belonging to the same Virtual Realm will have a (#) symbol next to their name.
kitsune
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Virtual realms is about freaking time. Let me do a cross-realm mad current content raid already. Fuaaaaaaark yeah. Also, naturally Garry has to be corrupted, why can't we just have a guy be disliked for his personality rather than the powers influencing him?
Caeden
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It could be that he purposely "corrupts" himself. There's also a new Garrosh model that's not corrupted. I could see a fight where he's just being his usual asshole self but in the last phase when its obvious he's about to be overthrown he joins with the sha of pride to stem the tide. Then we have to fight the Sha of Pride. Or maybe we nearly defeat the Sha of Pride and Garrosh rushes in to "save his power." There's a distinct difference from being corrupted how Blizzard usually does it and being all Bad Guy looking for the ultimate weapon.
because that is all that Metzen can come up with
and interesting to see the Klaxxi Paragons being the penultimate encounter before Garrosha
Some people are crazy about the lore and won't talk to you unless you know who created the original death knights, not the new Arthas created poseurs.
Ukerric
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"We'd do server merges, but that has a bad reputation, so let's call them virtual realms instead"
bixxby
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It's a win win for everyone this way. I don't know how a bro could stand to be on a shithouse realm in WoW though, the game is a lot worse when it feels like you're the only player there.
Edit: holy buttfucking pizza pies, Garrosh looks all fucked up. Are the Sha's supposed to be old gods?
bixxby
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Ah, the ole eat everything in sight trick. Looks like Nazgrimm is going to be a boss, going to be a disappointment if Mother Fuckin' Saurfang doesn't show up at some point. They've pretty much left their best characters (Saurfang & Tirion Fordring) out of the game since WotLK.
Those new mounts looks sweet as shit, especially the skeletal horse.
Those new mounts looks sweet as shit, especially the skeletal horse.
Caeden
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I thought that mount and the Hearthstone beta mount were both badass.
So if this patch is out around...3 months from now. That's September. I think new xpac beta starts almost then. I'm thinking march/april release if this new faster blizzard is legit.
So if this patch is out around...3 months from now. That's September. I think new xpac beta starts almost then. I'm thinking march/april release if this new faster blizzard is legit.
SimSimSalabim
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Garrosh isn't corrupted, he wields the power of Y'shaarj as a weapon.
Here is his dungeon journal:http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=68975
Here is his dungeon journal:http://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=68975
I guess the new heroic scenario loot is only useful for fapping at the ilevel. I won a 516 belt that managed to be a significant downgrade from a 483 LFR drop because it has no gem slots.