World of Warcraft: Current Year

TJT said:

Project Epoch has returned too, interestingly. This is where Blizzard lifted the idea of Undead Paladins btw. I am surprised that they did not take the Warlock changes from Turtle where Firestones act as temporary weapon enchants sort of like Rockbiter.

Project Epoch Reborn - The Custom Classic+ MMORPG Server Returns

A community-run continuation of Project Epoch. Explore a custom Classic+ world of original quests, reworked classes, dungeons, and optional challenges. In open testing, with a planned October 2026 launch.

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Why of everything would they bring back Epoch?
It was literally just an over hyped mess. Tons of bugs, no new starter quests at least in the Night Elf starting area, removal of Blood Elves and Draenei for reasons, legit got bailed out by Ascension because they couldn't keep their servers up.

I remember one of the things was I got poisoned by a spider and had like 6 days of a debuff and it needed cured or I'd die. Oh it's supposed to make me find a healer to cure it. That's fucking stupid, it's like the lowest form of interaction with players you could have, it's the equivalence of asking for a buff.

Also it's obvious when a private server has a class bias, and Shamans obviously had that bias. Paladins? Yeah you got blessings and hand now, can't afford to have a Shaman lose their blessing of kings because you used blessing of Freedom on them, no make those separate. Shamans oh you get Lava Burst that refreshes Flame Shock, totems? Yeah those are raid wide instead of group wide because fuck other classes.

This server was Legitimately the most over hyped piece of shit. They made it sound like they did all this stuff, We brought TBC talents and such to the wrath client! Okay... cool... Why? Just use the fucking TBC classic client it's better than the wrath client.

Springbok said:

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That could be a very slippery slope.

TJT said:

Project Epoch has returned too, interestingly. This is where Blizzard lifted the idea of Undead Paladins btw. I am surprised that they did not take the Warlock changes from Turtle where Firestones act as temporary weapon enchants sort of like Rockbiter.

Project Epoch Reborn - The Custom Classic+ MMORPG Server Returns

A community-run continuation of Project Epoch. Explore a custom Classic+ world of original quests, reworked classes, dungeons, and optional challenges. In open testing, with a planned October 2026 launch.

project-epoch.org

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Because no one at Blizzard has ever considered Undead Paladin.

TJT said:

Make no mistake here all of the profession bonuses in Forever were taken almost 1:1 from Epoch.

Forever is taking all the best ideas they could find and polishing them up.

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This is honestly all anyone has wanted from these companies that actually own the IP. Just give people what they clearly want. EQL is cool, but they failed to do this properly. WoW:F seems to have learned this lesson.

If Blizzard was smart, they'd look into who on these teams designed these changes and just hire them on in a creative role for WoW Forever

TJT said:

Make no mistake here all of the profession bonuses in Forever were taken almost 1:1 from Epoch.

Forever is taking all the best ideas they could find and polishing them up.

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So doing what old school Blizzard did.

Utnayan said:

So this is worth it? I was thinking of sitting back, controller support, and going back to the old days

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The answer is this only goes up to 20 so maybe. But you will probably get a couple months out of this atleast, particularly in an old folks home guild like the one we will make.

The new dungeons they made feel like the launch dungeons from 04. If that helps any.

Cap raised to 30 next week, supposedly.

Big Phoenix said:

Shaman are fun but fuck totem twisting in the ass. Have they said anything about that?

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Twisting is removed entirely. Windfury doesn't apply a 10 second buff anymore, it's static like strength of earth/air. They also made air totems not stack with each other at all so you can't stack shamans in groups.