Last Epoch

Tide27 said:

I lose interest in most arpg once the game comes down to just a loot grind.

Every arpg that I can think of boils down to the same thing, and I don't think there is really a long term viability to keep it fresh for too long.

I think part of it is the mindset that games don't start until " end game ". MMOs are in the same boat. Blast as fast as you can through the actual game, and then complain there is nothing to do....the game was the something to do.

PoE - do maps to do more maps
D3 - Do rifts to do more rifts
Last Epoch - Do monos to do more monos.

Everything virtually stays the same except numbers. Whether you are doing 100k dmg, 1 mil dmg, 1 bil, 1 trillion dmg....you are still hitting the same keys, for the same skills, for the same loot but +1 gooder.

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Eh my LE build took on all kinds of new resource balancing and playability as I got the final gear.


The world ender node I got from the belt made things very different, and I had to take the 0 mana cost enchant weapon in case I multi proc the belt. Very, very different from what I started with.

Bumping this because cycle 2 is scheduled for July 9th.

I'm a little surprised by the length of time it took to get cycle 2 but if they actually fully fixed the online issues I guess it's worth the wait.

Online's been fine for a long time

Nirgon said:

Online's been fine for a long time

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Listen, everyone here has known you have a learning disability for a while.

You don't need to lean into it so hard.

Khane said:

Listen, everyone here has known you have a learning disability for a while.

You don't need to lean into it so hard.

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I can stream it and prove it. I think you have a problem admitting things tbh.

The only issue i had with online was sometimes id end up in a invisible space. However the game needs way more fixing than that. The corruption levels just dont seem worth it so at a certain point the game feels pointless to keep playing.

Khane said:

Bumping this because cycle 2 is scheduled for July 9th.

I'm a little surprised by the length of time it took to get cycle 2 but if they actually fully fixed the online issues I guess it's worth the wait.

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Lots of good stuff coming out during my vacation in July it seems. Heres hoping to 5 weeks of rain so I can play Last Epoch/FFXIV/Elden Ring DLC

july 19th still

edit: caliane beat me to it

Deathwing said:

Interesting. They released 1.0 in between leagues for PoE. 3.25 is tentatively planned for 7/26, wonder why?

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They are... not planning very well. I think they believe it's better to get it out a week before PoE than wait ~1.5 months after because at that point it will have been over 6 months since the first cycle

Really loved Last Epoch and played so much in beta but sadly after the first few weeks of pushing super hard went on a vacation to Jamica and came back with really lack luster desire. Mainly driven by my wife not wanting to play anymore as grinding mono's over and over isn't really fun especially when she isn't nearly the min maxer/extremist i am.

Also the whole idea of cycles just is a mental block for me that makes me not want to play. Theoritically I could just play on the peristent server but just something in the brain just can't get exited about it knowing the real focus is on cycles. Not a logical line of thought but alas just ruins the experience for me for some reason. Similarly as much as I love Grim Dawn I won't play because years ago I made the mistake of downloading the tool to mod trying to recreate a rare as fuck item the game accidently deleted....made the dumb mistake of clicking a few buttons and generating abunch of the chase gear that i would have happily been farming the game for months for. Ruined all aspects, easy enough to say just don't use it but just made me lose all desire.

May mess around in 1.1 but sadly think the cycle based ARPG scene just isn't for me. Thank god Ashes of Creation Alpha 2 starts sometime in next 3 months and Smite 2 persistent apha/beta starts in August. AOC gives me that long term game where you can trick your mind into feeling long term accomplishment and growth for years to come while Smite 2 feeds the instant gratification need of competion. Too bad AOC is probably 1.5+ years from actually Go Live but always nice to have a plan, been avoiding MMO's for years for a few reasons but the last few years was mainly so i wouldn't get commited and could really enjoy the experience again. If i can recapture half the fun and sense of accomplish Vanguard and Everquest generated for me i'll be a happy camper.

Lastly props to LE, they have been one of the best companies I've seen when it comes to have a vision but really being open to changing components of their strategy based off customer feedback as well as truly explaining the "whys" and backing up with data and logic thought. For that they definitely have earned my respect over the last few years.

Pantheon alpha season 3 is out right now. Get acclimated. That's a happy Pantheon thought for you.

Well decided to dust off the keyboard and play this cycle start. Haven't followed what was meta but reading patch notes think I am going to try one of my builds I always thought would be good but couldn't quiet make it work at high levels. Going to go Merchant Guild faction and go VK focused on vitality w/ ES specced for lasers + Abysal Echos. Can get a Shadow Becon 2-3 LP early on pretty cheap since not alot of builds use. Its perfect for this as its abit of a hybrid build with ES's initial hit clearing fast and lasers + AE doing strong DOT damage. Strong damage multiplers with Mace (60% more damage which goes to lasers as well I do believe). Looks like alot of bugs were preventing numerous significant damage amps getting passed on to lasers plus lasers from all sources scale harder now vs just the boss hit ones.

Build some mana (~500) and essence refills are solid to be fairly self sustaining. Strictly my own theory crafting so sure there is some areas to improve but should be a fun starting one. Once I get the new screptre unique I have void cleave version I want to play around with since you can scale with vitality. After the initial rush also going to freaking make a Smelter Wrath build work high level or quit trying....the new 2H mace looks perfect to really get some massaive damage coupled with all the forge strike and FG passive improvements.

Void Knight, level 100 (Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1) - Last Epoch Build Planner (probably swap devouring orb for v.reversal but was trying to make the massive orbs following around me feel useful w/ shadow becaon. Wish they had a DOT spell node since i'm scaling DOT damage for my lasers and Abysal Echos)

I don't recall the name of the guilds, but I got the one that effects the drops up to level 10.

I'd go.and juice up the drop rate of various items so that I could get 4x to 8x the amount of drops.

Despite that, I never got shit except duplicates. Going after a 1h dagger would lead me to getting 5x of the same dagger with 1 or 2lp on it everytime. Despite massive increases to loot drops and chances, it didn't amount to ahit except 500 gold to sell them all to the vendor.

I won't make that mistake again.

Who's going duel wielding shields? Brahma I assume.

Tide27 said:

I don't recall the name of the guilds, but I got the one that effects the drops up to level 10.

I'd go.and juice up the drop rate of various items so that I could get 4x to 8x the amount of drops.

Despite that, I never got shit except duplicates. Going after a 1h dagger would lead me to getting 5x of the same dagger with 1 or 2lp on it everytime. Despite massive increases to loot drops and chances, it didn't amount to ahit except 500 gold to sell them all to the vendor.

I won't make that mistake again.

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That was one of the things that pissed me off about that reward. The Reward should roll on the table a second time and not just drop two of the exact same item. It is beneficial for crafting purposes but I would just rather have had another go at the loot table.

Mahes said:

That was one of the things that pissed me off about that reward. The Reward should roll on the table a second time and not just drop two of the exact same item. It is beneficial for crafting purposes but I would just rather have had another go at the loot table.

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They changed it this cycle to work that way. No more duplicates