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You brought up the 18th century and 19th century medicine, moron.

1960 is very relevant according to your own rules.

Who's moving the goalpost now, fathead? -- to prove the FDA can approve dangerous devices and dangerous vaccines.

This post was bad and you should feel bad for making it.

Child mortality rates prior to regular vaccination: Relevant to the anti vaxx topic

A badly designed and military utilized fast injector that spreads blood contaminants between patients after use has nothing to do with the vaccination movement.

You may be the least effective thinker in this forum's history.
 
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You just spammed for 2 pages about nothing to do with delayed vaccination except 18th and 19th century study.

You're batshit crazy.

I just spammed peer reviewed literature that refutes your anti vaxx claims, and you have now strawmanned that two pages of information.

But its still there for any and all to see. Your misrepresentation is proof only of your desperation to deny facts and reality. In point of fact, most of the citations I just spammed had nothing to do with the 1800s.

Literally retarded.
 
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Only for 95% of people according to the CDC but yeah who cares about facts.

If a baby born to a vaccinated mother needs one within a few hours of birth because they might eat and drink some outside tainted food then you are dumber than I thought.

The hepatitis B vaccine | BabyCenter

The hepatitis B vaccine (HepB) protects your child against the hepatitis B virus, which can lead to liver damage and even death.

Hepatitis B is generally considered an adult disease because it's transmitted through unsafe sex and shared needles. But many people who get it – including children – don't engage in these high-risk behaviors. They're either infected at birth or they contract the disease during childhood from close contact with another person who is infected.

Hepatitis B is highly infectious. An estimated 700,000 to 1.4 million people in the United States have the virus, and most of them acquired it in childhood.

Many never feel sick and don't know they have the disease, but those who become infected as children are more likely to have long-term health problems, such as cirrhosis and liver cancer. In 2013, nearly 1,900 Americans died from illnesses related to hepatitis B.

The hepatitis B vaccine was introduced in 1981 and became part of the recommended immunization schedule in the United States in 1991. Since then, the incidence of acute hepatitis B has dropped by more than 95 percent in children and adolescents, and by more than 75 percent overall.

The number of new infections annually has declined from an average of 260,000 in the 1980s to an estimated 19,800 in 2013. The biggest decline was among children and adolescents.

If you think a child can't contract the disease from close contact with an infected person, then you are dumber than I thought.
 
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This post was bad and you should feel bad for making it.

Child mortality rates prior to regular vaccination: Relevant to the anti vaxx topic

A badly designed and military utilized fast injector that spreads blood contaminants between patients after use has nothing to do with the vaccination movement.

You may be the least effective thinker in this forum's history.

Its a dangerous approval of a medical device making use of vaccine jugs.

You said there were rigorous standards in place, fathead. Go home buffoon.
 
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Its a dangerous approval of a medical device making use of vaccine jugs.

It is a red herring fallacy and desperate straw grasping while you fail to offer up the citation actually requested.

Also, the part where you're like "They made a mistake once! THEY CAN NEVER BE TRUSTED AGAIN!"?

Yeah that's the nirvana fallacy.

Rigorous standards doesn't mean mistakes can't be made. Appealing to them as justification for endangering the lives of thousands to millions by holding to an unjustified position is, in fact, appeal to perfection fallacy.

No system is perfect. That isn't an argument against the system. It never is.

#dealwithit
 

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And yes, many nations in the world still have latent Hep B in their water supplies. I was literally told not to drink the water in Poland due to this fact, nor to eat any vegetables that were unwashed and uncooked while I was there, despite having the vaccine.
Tell me what the AMERICAN CDC vaccine schedule is in Poland. Tell me how that effects a baby born tomorrow here in the US.
 
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Tell me what the AMERICAN CDC vaccine schedule is in Poland. Tell me how that effects a baby born tomorrow here in the US.

This is irrelevant.

The relevant reasoning for vaccinating US children for Hep B is provided above.

#dealwithit
 
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If you think a child can't contract the disease from close contact with an infected person, then you are dumber than I thought.
Good job cut and pasting something you don't understand, didn't read, and didn't refute my position at all.

Show me the numbers of babies contracting hep B in the first month, I won't hold you to the first week or first day. Right now we are giving it at hour 0 if possible.
 
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This is irrelevant.

The relevant reasoning for vaccinating US children for Hep B is provided above.

#dealwithit
It seemed relevant when you were telling me how you needed a vaccine to go to Poland ...

You didn't have a vaccine before that despite living in the US and NEEDING one to be safe because every day you could have been exposed to it. You waited until your 30's? to get one.
 
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Good job cut and pasting something you don't understand, didn't read, and didn't refute my position at all.

Assertion fallacy, assertion fallacy, and yes it did.

Show me the numbers of babies contracting hep B in the first month, I won't hold you to the first week or first day. Right now we are giving it at hour 0 if possible.

The reason it is given that early is because most people who contract the disease in childhood go undiagnosed for years, and that is how the most damage to the individual is done.

Your request is nonsense as a result.
 

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It seemed relevant when you were telling me how you needed a vaccine to go to Poland ...

You didn't have a vaccine before that despite living in the US and NEEDING one to be safe because every day you could have been exposed to it. You waited until your 30's? to get one.

I was born in 1980.

The Hep B vaxx in childhood began in 1991.

Try again.
 

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I can't find numbers to support my stance so therefore I am right.

#justhodjthings
 
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I was born in 1980.

The Hep B vaxx in childhood began in 1991.

Try again.
I know, that's my point. You didn't contract it. Nobody in your group of friends contracted it despite not being vaccinated.
 
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I can't find numbers to support my stance so therefore I am right.

#justhodjthings

Strawman.

Go back to being emo in your admin thread butthurt boy. You're done here.

"Why weren't you vaccinated at birth with a vaccine that was invented a year after you were born and only become mandatory 11 years after you were born?"

#justa_skeleton_03things.
 
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I know, that's my point. You didn't contract it. Nobody in your group of friends contracted it despite being vaccinated.

Lol is this really an argument or are you just trolling now? Because this is retarded. Possibly the single worst post you've ever made.
 

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Go back to being emo in your admin thread butthurt boy. You're done here.
The classic "I can't cut and paste any more gibberish and I refuse to look at statistics".

What's the fallacy when someone just declares themselves right? The Hodj Self-Importance Fallacy?
 
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"You didn't get the disease so you don't need a vaccine" isn't an argument lol.

Try harder.
 

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Hepatitis B Fact Sheet for Parents | CDC

Why should my child get the hepatitis B shot?
The hepatitis B shot:

  • Protects your child against hepatitis B, a potentially serious disease
  • Protects other people from the disease because children with hepatitis B usually don’t have symptoms, but they often pass the disease to others without anyone knowing they were infected
  • Prevents your child from developing liver disease and cancer from hepatitis B
  • Keeps your child from missing school or childcare (and keeps you from missing work to care for your sick child)

Is the hepatitis B shot safe?
The hepatitis B vaccine is very safe, and it is effective at preventing hepatitis B. Vaccines, like any medicine, can have side effects. No serious side effects are known to be caused by the hepatitis B vaccine.


What are the side effects?
Most people who get the hepatitis B vaccine will have no side effects at all. When side effects do occur, they are very mild, such as a low fever (less than 101 degrees) or a sore arm from the shot.


The Hepatitis B Vaccine Dose at Birth
It’s hard to imagine putting your newborn through the pain of a shot. But a little stick early in life is an important first step to protecting your baby against a deadly disease.

All babies should get the first shot of hepatitis B vaccine before they leave the hospital. This shot acts as a safety net, reducing the risk of getting the disease from moms or family members who may not know they are infected with hepatitis B.

When a mom has hepatitis B, there’s an additional medicine that can help protect the baby against hepatitis B, called the hepatitis B immune globulin (HBIG). HBIG gives a baby’s body a "boost" or extra help to fight the virus as soon as he is born. This shot works best when the baby gets it within the first 12 hours of his life. The baby will also need to complete the full hepatitis B vaccination series for best protection.


What is hepatitis B?
Hepatitis B is a contagious liver disease caused by the hepatitis B virus. When a person is first infected with the virus, he or she can develop an "acute" (short-term) infection. Acute hepatitis B refers to the first 6 months after someone is infected with the hepatitis B virus. This infection can range from a very mild illness with few or no symptoms to a serious condition requiring hospitalization. Some people are able to fight the infection and clear the virus.

For others, the infection remains and is "chronic," or lifelong. Chronic hepatitis B refers to the infection when it remains active instead of getting better after 6 months. Over time, the infection can cause serious health problems, and even liver cancer.
 

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But the greater good, man. CFS is life-destroying and more funding needs to be put into evaluating the HPV vaccine.

But with fathead in the way, it won't happen. Are ya'll OK with that GREATER GOOD business? My daughter might not think its an acceptable risk, its her right to choose.

Keep it up. Someone should call Antifa on your ass, as mentioned.
 
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