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Mures

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Some of this card art for Kara looks like it belongs in a Disney movie, well beyond the usual Blizzard cartoonyness in some cases.
Blizzard has some odd humor. Probably someone took offense to calling the wotog video disney-like so they're all like disney?!? I'll show them disney!
 
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Famm

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The lock spell literally looks right out of beauty and the beast.
 
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Fix priest class to not be the embodiment of annoyingness.

or

Replace with death knight or monk.

Which would take less effort?
 
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Famm

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Annoyingness? Do you mean annoying to play or play against?

How about making it remotely viable. That might take some effort too and not sure they know what to do with it in the first place.
 
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Famm

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Well, its probably the worst class right now though, so I can't really get too salty when they do pull a win out of their ass.
 
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Oh, I don't think there's much probably about it. Priest is in a pretty bad place.

Still, I hate playing against them even if I'm well favored. It's like every one of their class cards is designed specifically to annoy the other player.
 
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Gavinmad

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There are 4 tiers of decks in Hearthstone. Tier 1, Tier 2, Tier 3, and Tier Priest.
 
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I hate when Priest is viable though because it is all but guarenteed to be a 15 to 20min game of annoying shit based on how lucky they got on which cards they took from my deck.
 
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That's fine, you can just concede whenever you go against me on priest.
 
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Normally I wouldn't post a Toast video, but the Barnes potential is too great.

I feel like this guy is going to be in almost every deck.


 
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Gavinmad

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I feel like this guy is going to be in almost every deck.

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Back to the zoo vs warrior discussion we were having on the previous forum. I mean....I don't know how much I can trust that chart. I see no way possible otk warrior is favored against zoo. I've only lost to it twice and have beaten it at least 15-20x, both losses came from them having really good draws while I had really poor draws. It seems so far this season I'm seeing less warrior, but I haven't lost to a single one outside of one of those otk scenarios. Just played back to back dragon warriors, different people, who played gorehowl too, which will be good for zoo if it becomes standard as gorehowl is far too slow and doesn't really do anything in the matchup other than throw a turn away for the warrior. They both had really good starts too, turn 1 fiery war axe/turn 2 alexstrazas champion, but turn 3 imp gang boss gives warrior so many fits. Don't know if I've seen any control warrior this season, but it is at best ~52% matchup for them, hardly favored. I've played a good bit of c'thun warrior before playing zoo and zoo was definitely one of its worse matchups. I feel like I have a higher win rate w/ zoo vs c'thun warrior then I did w/ warrior vs zoo. I think the double doomguards has something to do with it too and I wasn't seeing very many doomguards from zoo before, so that may also be why the numbers from that chart aren't reflecting what I'm seeing.

Shaman on the other hand is giving me more fits. Seems more and more are running double doomhammer and I ran into a really aggro one last night w/ double doomhammer and he fit a lightning storm in there while still running all of the aggressive cards. It may have only been a one of even and he got a godly draw.
 
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Gavinmad

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I have no comment on the matchup itself, but I'm confident that the majority of the people you played are terrible with OTK warrior.
 
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I have no comment on the matchup itself, but I'm confident that the majority of the people you played are terrible with OTK warrior.

Yup, this about sums it up :D

OTK warriors are usually bad. I've yet to lose to it actually, but I've only faced 3-4.
 
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Back to the zoo vs warrior discussion we were having on the previous forum. I mean....I don't know how much I can trust that chart.

I usually win versus zoo as dragon warrior unless they get their 2xPO Leeroy combo. Maybe your zoo list is different enough from the common list in that data. But what does that have to do with "trust"? They're just numbers, they can't lie. And neither decks are particularly hard to play.
 
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Mures

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Yeah, but when they are so far off base with a match up it makes me question the data that is being entered. The "people I've played are terrible at otk warrior" may have merit if I wasn't playing the top .25% of na's entire hs population. I don't see them making too many mistakes, I think they play the match up to the best of their ability, which at this level is few mistakes, unfortunately that just isn't enough for them in that match up.
 
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Currently I'm seeing a lot of Druid. Like Warrior there are a few variations so you never know, exactly, what you're up against. Despite our predictions of Druid death with Standard they are in a pretty strong place right now. They don't seem overpowered but they do feel strong.
 
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Yeah, but when they are so far off base with a match up it makes me question the data that is being entered. The "people I've played are terrible at otk warrior" may have merit if I wasn't playing the top .25% of na's entire hs population. I don't see them making too many mistakes, I think they play the match up to the best of their ability, which at this level is few mistakes, unfortunately that just isn't enough for them in that match up.

Rank 1 is 0.25% right?

People see pros playing these decks and try to pilot it, doesn't mean they are good. OTK Warrior is an extremely difficult deck to pilot. There will for sure be mistakes. That deck requires a lot of foresight.

I don't even know who should win the OTK War vs Zoo match. According to the VS reports (Hearthstone Decks Matchup Chart - Data Reaper Report - Vicious Syndicate (vS)), there weren't enough games to even have OTK Warrior on the "Legend Only" charts. So the data they have is going to be people that make mistakes and even with Zoo as easy as it is, OTK War still had 59% win rate against Zoo in over 600 matches. An experienced OTK Warrior player will likely have an even higher win rate.

So yes, only assumption we can make is you played a couple "experienced" OTK warrior guys and then a whole bunch of baddies.
 
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