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I may have overshot with my 2-3 years prediction for Forever to become the premier version of WoW over Retail.

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To avoid 30-warrior raids, Blizzard had 2 options: Normalize rage generation or cap weapon damage forever. They made the right call.

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Got my PTO approved today. The Thursday and Friday following release. Then the week before and week of Thanksgiving. Important things indeed.

We're level 20 and they haven't even gotten to the point in the Arms/Fury trees that really add to their rage generation. If Blizzard does much of ANYTHING based on level 20 dps, they really are brain dead.

In Forever, rage is normalized to no longer being generated based on the amount of damage you do or receive. It is a set amount of rage you generate based on each successful hit or getting hit (with talents in Prot to generate rage based on blocks, dodges and parries). Warriors are freaking...

Prot warriors will still be the only tanks with Shield Wall. And will still be the best overall tank. Bears still struggle with AoE tanking and Pallies still take more damage than warriors. Basically WotLK tanking where a 25 man raid wanted at least one of each.

For a Horde tailor, Silverpine is definitely the play.

I think the gold difference is true in the 1-20 ranges from Horde to Alliance. I've leveled an Alliance priest many times and the only times I ran into gold problems training my talents were at the "big" talent groups: 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60. With Horde, I was having gold issues as early as...

This misconception that Forever is not going to be a "Live" server is just categorically false. WoW is going to have TWO parallel Live versions that have full development teams and content release cadences. That being said, I agree Forever needs its own thread as the Retail Slop servers are...

Because Turtle WoW was WAY too far down the development line for them to just "take it over." And Blizzard will NEVER have WoW be developed by an outside studio. EVER. This is just private server cuckold tears. As to the "Never compete with themselves," that doesn't really apply here as...

WoW Forever will be the premier version of WoW in 2 to 3 years. "Retail" will take a huge backseat once Forever has gotten multiple content updates.

Ravens got a Michigan Second to steal the game

The Cowboys are 1-0 against other NFL teams. The Cowboys are 0-2 against the NFL refs.

I hope they have a macro that yells "This is Olympus Country" every time they PK someone.

You still have Kentucky on your schedule. I mean who have they even beaten.... OH MY LORD

LOL Fuck Michigan.

This SEC schedule is going to be the leading cause of heart attacks in Texas.

The 10-man field goal block is the new meta in the NFL

The only ruleset they have explicitly said will be insulated from everything else is the Hardcore set. I personally have not been in a group with PvP people, but no one from Blizzard has come out and said that it would be impossible.

I can't tell if you're describing playing near Asmongold's cult followers or just the PvP ruleset in general.

Is it possible for the Cowboys to have TWO top 10 picks next spring in one of the best QB classes in a long time?? OH GOD PLEASE!!!

Yeah, they are super sensitive these days. Caught a 4-day suspension for the following:

First Beta Updates https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696

@Runnen was right. Shut it all down. UNPLAYABLE

Northrend could absolutely be a destination later on. Arthas wouldn't even have to be the focal point of the story either. He could just exist in the background.

Dude, they can easily do a verticle zone even when everyone is solely on foot. There a lot of options for them from elevators to flight paths to teleports to get you around a verticle zone. Just because YOU are an uncreative fool doesn't mean these devs are.

You have NO IDEA of the massive vertical changes just in the two original continents do you? Ever flown from Ironforge to Wetlands? Every looked off the Loch Modan dam? Ever quested in Thousand Needles? Get the fuck out of here.

Since WoW Forever is being built upon the Retail client, they can absolutely create MASSIVE underground zones/areas. They already did this a couple times in Retail and I see no reason why they wouldn't be able to do the same again in Forever.

Ok, I thought you were just a EQ hater, but it's clear now that you hate EVERYTHING entertainment based and are just a crusty piece of shit that doesn't know how to enjoy anything anymore. You've been a long-time contributor to this site, but it's time for you to go.... on ignore.

The Retail devs scrapped it because by the time they started down that path, they had conditioned the playerbase to expect 20% power gains each expansion. If they had STARTED down that road, it would be a different expectation. The amount DOOMER you are tied to is just fucking idiotic.

You guys are so uncreative. Preach has a great answer for this and there is already items in Forever that are going down this path.

Two subs? You planning on playing 2 accounts?

This is true, as all MMOs have their sweats. But not having gear resets every 6 - 9 months means the Weekend Dad Warriors won't see whatever progression they have made in that time get completely wiped out. And will be far more likely to stick around.

They will need a couple leveling zones with iLvl 2235566 greens to keep that sweet sweet gear reset going every "expansion".

Tell me you haven't played the Beta without telling me you haven't played the Beta.

This is just CATEGORICALLY FALSE. You didn't watch a single second of the Blizzcon coverage did you? Here, let me help you out. I'm sorry you love the Retail slop version, but you are now an endangered species.

Which is why Forever is going to DESTROY Retail for the "new player experience." New players get COMPLETELY lost by the time they finish Dragonflight with ALL the systems that have been shoehorned into the retail product that they usually just quit. Forever is going to be a FAR better...