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You're right. How could anyone ever mock the armchair developer! Melvin, Kickstarter doesn't allow pledge tiers greater than $10,000 but it is possible to pledge more than $10,000 if someone wanted to.

I just checked and sure enough. Apprentice developer.

Yeah update #49 pretty much confirmed that they had given up on the kickstarter simply because they mentioned that getting money on the site directly doesn't have kickstarter taking a cut. Considering they are posting it on kickstarter it seemed kind of unprofessional of them. Don't take my...

I wonder if they intend non-subscribers not being able to view the store page properly.

I've always been of the suspicion that stuff like this happens fairly often since I can find no kickstarter that failed just barely; but I can find several that barely funded at 100%. I suspect that Kickstarter really doesn't care so long as the thing gets funded and they get their cut of the...

Maybe it will come from his pal Richard Garriot.

The bigger question however is; does kickstarter investigate campaigns that suddenly get some large backers in the very end from "angel investors" or do they just quietly take their cut of the profits? Shabushabu, if it doesn't reach $800,000 nobody is charged anything.

World of Warcraft is due for it's 10th anniversary this November.

That whole exchange started when I pointed out to Dayna that Popsicledeath has some valid points and that repeatedly calling him "Poopsickle" wasn't helping his arguments and only made himself look like the jerk. Of course by doing this Dayna goes all apeshit on me for agreeing with...

We're on track to have a very high comments day. Already at 255 and today is just getting started!Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen by Visionary Realms, Inc. :: Kicktraq

Boozecube when is your kickstarter starting? I'm ready to pledge $3000 right now!!!!

I totally agree with that abandoning the kickstarter halfway through was the biggest mistake the team made on this whole project. I actually didn't mind the mistakes with the initial page because for the first three weeks there were at least working on improving it and responding to feedback...

I'm personally more optimistic that they will eventually release a game of some sort; mostly because they are using Unity which makes it stupid easy for a talented zone designer like Vu to churn out content. However the game they do initially release will probably be on the smaller end with...

I just went through their whole membership list; of the 341 members, 75 of them had gold names indicating that they are champion level subscribers. So they already made $1125 on their website less than a week after launch, before the kickstarter is finished and before they even have all of the...

I've been emailing them, posting in their "free section" of their forums, etc. about these very points for almost two weeks now. It's now too late for them to give the appearance they put all of their effort into the current kickstarter; at this point they would be much better served by trying...

It's not nearly enough to make the game but $1000/month is pretty good "free money" from a website that really doesn't deserve it. Best part is taking their money seems to keep these people happy; can't really fault the team for taking the money. I think I'll actually take the time to go...

That's exactly the problem. During the first three weeks I actually didn't mind so much that they didn't have a good Kickstarter page to start with since they were actively trying to improve it and were listening to feedback. What happened in the 4th week where they pretty much gave up on it...

That's assuming the team listens to them during development. If we go by how much the team has listened to suggestions on how to manage their kickstarter page over the last two weeks I don't think there is much to worry about.

To be fair the subsciption for the website thing was suggested by several people in the kickstarter comments before they decided to go that route. Just looking at the members list on the website and it becomes clear that they already have dozens of people subscribing to their champion level...

That's what I love about EverQuest; it's all about the math! It's also a large part of why I loved to play a warrior so much. This is also an area where I have a bit more concern in regards to Pantheon as Vanguard ended up being more in the "action RPG" category with it's much faster paced...

I'm in on the kickstarter at $855 and wont be pulling my pledge but there is no way I'll be giving them so much as a single cent on their private website; especially not through Paypal(seriously, Paypal sucks). If they wanted to come back in a couple of months with a much better organized and...

"Magician", claims that the 2nd 10k pledge that appeared a couple of days ago is his. He is one of the champion members on the new forums; he's a very big cheer leader of Brad and often says "go Aradune". Either he is full of shit or it's a legitimate 10k pledge. Have no clue about the most...

Someone asked him about it and he answered the question. Game isn't in alpha yet; which is when most such systems would typically be tested in a game like this. He's simply giving his honest thoughts about such systems at this point in time and will do some testing during alpha to figure out...

Like I said before if this was a scam they probably would have been better organized than they are. I truly believe these guys do want to make a game they just don't know how to really manage a game without a big corporate publisher like Sony or Microsoft calling the shots; trying to get a game...

Sadly, this kind of stuff happens all of the time in the video games industry. The story about what happened with Vanguard: Saga of Heroes always reminds me ofThe Next Big Thing. LFG, they are doing the $15/month subscription because many people asked them to do that because many people are...

Not really; a ponzi scheme would be much better organized and managed.

If their intention is to scam people out of their money then this is the worst run scam ever. Seriously there is no reason to doubt that they intend to make a game and using the Unity engine certainly gives them the tools necessary to make this game for a relatively low budget. However I think...

All that was needed was in invite code from the team. I did not at any time give them any credit card information. They do have a subscription thing you can sign up for but it's not necessary and currently seems to offer no benefit. This confusion seems to stem from one person in the comments...

I actually found several but I found one, Shadowrun: Online, that is probably a lot more comparable to the type of project Pantheon is. It only had $250,000 of it's $500,000 20 days into it's 28 day campaign but managed to put it in during the last week to get up to $558,838. Shadowrun...

I've mentioned it like 2 or 3 times now but some people here seem to have trouble with reading comprehension.

I'm not paying $15/month for the forums. If you had been reading you would know I'm not paying anything because they are currently in a testing phase for their new forums and I was invited to take part in that test.

Honestly I don't think Kickstarter cares what they do with the money so long as it get's funded they get their 5%(5% of 800,000 is 40,000).

I'm only pointing it out as an example that it's pretty typical for kickstarters to really pick up steam in the last week. It's an example that is not currently funded and hasn't looked like it was going to fund for a number of weeks but now is looking much better in the final hours. I chose...

He kind of did until people, largely from this forum, talked him into starting a new project and this is the result.

All indications currently show that the team does intend to continue development whether or not the kickstarter actually funds. Whether or not they can manage the project to completion however is a different story entirely. We're heading into the last week so the numbers of pledges will...

I didn't pay a dime to get into the forums. They are currently testing some stuff with their new site and overall the new site looks pretty good. They do plan on having some sort of subscription thing at some point but how it will work is to be determined.

I don't think he's lying; I've been messaging Brad and Ben about this and posting about it in their new forums(yes I'm one of the 100 or so) and have been given some information that seems to indicate that they are still focused on the kickstarter. We'll see what happens in the next week. If...

He at least did you what you asked him to and made a post in the kickstarter comments. Sure it's not enough but it's at least something.

I actually agree with pretty much everything you said here; I would love it if Brad was far more active on the kickstarter page and was running this whole thing better from the beginning. I'm not negative on the kickstarter comments page simply because I realize that it's not the place to be...

I wont go so far to say he hasn't learned anything from Vanguard but I do agree with your overall point that it's very disappointing to see Brad not as involved on the kickstarter page as he should be. If they continue with the image that they have totally given up on the kickstarter only...