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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I'd also just prefer if the nights were REALISTICALLY dark. Like if you're in a giant dense forest, it's probably almost pitch black. If you're in the middle of a wide open plain, most people can see a bit by moonlight/starlight. Obviously not daytime vision but it's not like OMG ENDLESS...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I agree that instancing or extremely limited phasing can be used to add a bit of story without disrupting the world around you. I just feel that any place where it's possibly to tell the story AND effect the world around you it's obviously the superior choice to do the latter. Even if it's...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Oh I was simply referring to the encounters on their own. I 100% get that having to deal with other players changes the game drastically. You can experience that sort of fun in a shitty night of unrest haha. Don't even need VP.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I think some of the Fay zones added later looked awesome. A lot of the look of EQ2 that was terrible was initial character models, armor, etc. All of the characters looking like the same exact model with different heads and scaling was pretty terrible too. There were definitely things that...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    That's really the rub on this whole project. It honestly just feels like someone ate a bowl full of everquest related fun facts and then shit out the partially digested pieces onto a kick starter page, picked random dollar amounts out of a hat for tiers of support, and then threw random bits of...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    What's funny about this is that I have extremely mixed feelings mostly based on how "challenge" is defined. I only raided in WoW through vanilla naxx. Raiding is not really my thing and I'm more into small group content/social whatever. The thing is, that with that experience I can say there...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I think WoW is brilliant for that. I loved WoW. I just like the other too and I haven't experienced that world in a really long time unless you count P99. On the other hand I have experienced at least a dozen attempts to copy WoW in the past 6-7 years.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    That seems crazy. I mean to each their own but EQ2 was so gd ugly and clunky and horrible at release. I've never been able to get into that game. I don't think I've managed to stomach it past like level 30 ever. Maybe it gets better later in the game I dunno.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    In vanilla->velious EQ? I dunno maybe I only got unlucky grouping with extremely cautious groups but I seem to recall many groups waiting for a cleric or a tank or someone to either CC or pull. It was pretty obvious the difference between a well put together group and one that just invited...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    The pictures also provide a sense of NO WE DIDN'T JUST GET DRUNK OVER THE HOLIDAYS AND DECIDE WE SHOULD MAKE A GAME WITH ZERO PLANNING AND JUST THROW UP SOME HASTILY BULLSHITTED TOGETHER KICKSTARTER TO SEE IF SOME SUCKERS WILL GIVE US THEIR MONEY lol
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Maybe I am odd but the only kind of things I want are in game things. I have dozens of collectors edition boxes that I haven't taken a single thing out of ever beyond the cd key. That said I love my baby panda and mini diablo and zergling pets in WoW. If I am buying shit for a game I want...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Yeah I was mad pumped for EQ2. I was like man EQ2 is gonna fistfuck WoW these guys know what they're doing! They made EQ right?! Played EQ2 and WoW. Guess which one I kept playing? There is a reason WoW upped the ante to 10 million and it isn't because IT'S A STUPID CARTOONY GAME FOR KIDS...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I love every single thing about EVE except actually playing it : (
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    My response would be that I liked Vanguard. Even at release. Even running like complete shit. Even many months later when the PvP hacking was obscene. Even just grinding stupid bug faction to get tank armor for my cleric it was fun. So if he can at least match VG, I'll be a little happy...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I always found this phenomenon hilarious to watch with every new EQ server and later progression servers. The first few weeks is like 9812739812793872198371 people logged on all with dreams that THIS TIME they are going to be at the head of the pack and claim GLORY. Then 2-3 weeks in they...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Honestly when I fell in love with EQ I was hardcore casual (i.e. a complete newbie who still played a metric fuckton). I didn't give a shit about guilds like yours (I played on the nameless we had Legacy of Steel not FoH but whatevs) outside of being like "wow look at that fucking sword that...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I think what was wrong with Rift was that it was just fucking boring. Like the same issue as EQ2 but with better graphics. I wanted to like it. It was pretty and had some neat ideas. It was just so gd dull and flavorless. Like comparing Diablo 2 to Titan Quest. Diablo 2 is awesome and...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I read this response a bit before bed last night and didn't get around to replying but it got me thinking on what REALLY is important in class design. Like what makes a game have OMFG THE BEST CLASSES EVER and maybe even have such an impact on people that in future games they STILL try out the...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I'm pretty sure I said bandaids and then LATER a fungi tunic. I wasn't trying to imply that week 2 of Kunark the entire rogue population was out and about soloing happily away. Hell even with a fungi tunic rogue soloing was pretty shit. My point was just that it was POSSIBLE to solo albeit...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I think what he was getting at was that soloing was possible in EQ even if the game wasn't designed around it. However to solo you definitely had to be on your game. Even rogues could solo in EQ. It wasn't as efficient and convenient as with say a necro. But with band aids and later a...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Good post! I am not a solo gamer by nature (at least in terms of the exp grind) but I agree it can be mad fun just seeing what you can solo or small group kill by using your character's abilities to the fullest. I don't know how many 7634776375 HP vendors and quest NPCs me and a buddy would...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    TBH if you're going on the cheap hire some Korean devs to do your combat, character animations, etc. Then just tone them down from dragonball Z to something more palatable to western audiences. Don't pull a Funcom and have some of the best MMO ideas to date ruined because you don't have people...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Most of the games I listed were far from crap. Perfect? No. Great? Not really. Fun? Yep for the most part. I honestly have no idea how you can like VG or EQ and hate Vanilla WoW. While EQ is my first and best remembered MMO love, I'd have to say that from a more objective point of view...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I thought the crazy scale of the world in parts of VG was awesome. I loved that I could visit pretty much anything I could see in game. Age of Conan while a shitty game did have some of the best looking areas I have seen in an mmo and it was zone based. So I think either done properly can...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    More ballsy than me! I just randomly have "Have fun storming the castle!" run through my head but remain unspoken half the time I am telling someone goodbye lol.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    The problem is that even the "shit games" can be pretty fun. I've played characters to the release "max level" in EQ, DAoC, Shadowbane, SWG, WoW, Vanguard, Age of Conan, Warhammer Online, Aion, GW2, SWTOR, etc that I can think of offhand and while most of them were disappointing in some way or...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I'm not sure there. I honestly bought two copies of it expecting it to be amazing after jerking off to FF titles all through my childhood and then went through the annoying clusterfuck of getting two characters on the same shard at launch (god that was fucking stupid) played it for a few hours...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I have said it before in other threads. The "spiritual successor" to EQ is hands down World of Warcraft. I'm not talking about the game as it stands now, simply vanilla. Hell EQ now isn't even EQ anymore so I can't really blame WoW for taking a different path either. It felt the most like EQ...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Eh? GW2 classes are just utter shit. What does that have to do with distinct classes like EQ or VG being superior to boring subclasses like SWTOR or WoW Talent Trees?
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I'd honestly rather them have 4 distinct EQ or VG classes and add in classes later than 4 base classes with 3 sub classes each. To me more options = LESS variety.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Do I get to add in Billy Crystal "It would take a miracle!"
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I am okay with these sort of "growing into your subclass" sort of things but TBH in every game I've played that had it I can think of offhand it just felt kinda stupid and pointless. SWTOR is the most recent example I can think of. In a few cases the sub classes were really distinct i.e. Sith...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    This is 100% because it is Brad. While I agree VG was a clusterfuck I'd probably rank it #3 on my list of favorite mmos. Considering his first mmo gets my #1 slot and his second even if a failure in many many respects STILL gets my #3. It being Brad is a pretty big deal. Do I think he'd lie...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Well I guess I just sorta ignore the I KNOW XYZ BECAUSE OF MY INSIDE SOURCES comments from anyone I don't already know in person. My thought with him was that he did present valid criticisms and questions none of which have been addressed. I just hate the overly feel good shit where everyone...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    You really need a little of that though. Otherwise you have the annoying people who scream IT'S STILL IN BETA 3 days before launch (you know who I'm talking about) as an excuse for every criticism just running over everyone with a dissenting opinion. I hate those people at least 10X as much as...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Honestly I'd be okay with him abusing the fuck out of my nostalgia to make a buck and again I have pledged to this KS.. The biggest kick in the dick to be quite honest is that the KS page feels amateur as fuck. Like even the Camelot Unchained KS looks better and I don't consider the Mythic...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Sadly I spent many years in jobs where I could game at work posting on random forums about MMO features and possibilities when I could have just been playing some game or another. Forum Quest is serious business. Let me know when your kickstarter is up !!
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I posted this to another message but seriously the higher end tiers should include an opt in for testing. Donating 500 or 1000 to get in alpha vs 250 to get in ASAP as a tester (even if we are really assholes with no intention to "test" and just want to buy our way in asap) is a bit discouraging.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    He might be a Warrior Lord if the stretch goals don't get met!
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I have pledged to this KS as well and I agree that Utnayan is a little negative but he hasn't posted a single thing or made a single accusation that was way out of line or even excessively unreasonable. I don't think the engine pricing thing really warranted that much discussion but it's a...