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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    To be fair he is as correct as anyone else who says "if they only told us about x or how y worked" this would be funded. It is all equally dillusional.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Actually Jacobs was able to significantly prefund his kickstarter (and post fund the project) something which was never an option here.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Ks is a weird thing that blew up in the last year. I was looking at some data and mid 2012 there were not even ten kickstarters that had raised a million dollars. Kickstarter has certainly gained as much if not more from high profile projects like Veronica Marrs as it happened the other way...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    In the very first video brad said is funding may allow for a very small office. Offices are not even guaranteed at this point. What do people think they have been doing during the ks? They are all using their own gear and working out of garage space or other free available space.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Plus people making these suggestions have no business experience. That might be fine for a well funded project but moving a shoestring start up to save on tax issues that will not be relevant for five or more years is the epitome of putting the cart before the horse. I hate California but...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Was pretty clear in what is said. Not sure what you struggled to understand. Peoole like to act like all the people who played eq wanted some kind of hardcore game. I used wow as an example of where many former eq players went to play and never looked back and for whom certainly eq wound...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    This was a small window of opportunity. It was not planned out for years. If not for this they all would be full time employment seeking in the current area. This thing literally came together because certain people got fired at a certain time. They have never denied that reality or hidden...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Yeah but 20k backers allows in investors to see 250k-360k a month in subscription fees. When you are talking about a game looking for an 8 million dollar budget, that kind of subscription revenue does make things possible. At a few thousand backers you can't really project any meaningful...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    The issue they face is several people on the team are on the cusp of real financial hardship and can not wait while even more money is fundraised and washed. The ks coming through would relieve all that pressure and allow all the early participants to throw themselves in full force while...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Yeah unfortunately it seems like they would be better off with 250k in pledges but 12k backers. The current number shows a very extreme amount of entrance by a very small group. Unless they plan a $40 a month subscription rate it is a tough row to hoe. I have continued to waffle back and...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    This reminds me of something daoc had. Which I think was a question queue and you could sign up to answer questions. Then when a newbie had a question a more experienced player who has specifically volunteered to help could give them guidance
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Yeah but It takes a level greater than love. Plus a lot of people have moved on from that kind of gaming or are happy in other games. They don't obsess about the glory days of eq. In fact given how wow jizzed all over everything it could be fair to believe most people felt inhibited and held...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    You know you get the rep as the annoying fuck who will bother everyone on the server regardless of what they are doing to invite them to fill out your group. (Usually filling out means being healer for five dps). I don't get the community and social aspects people claim are being lost. I...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I agree with you. I don't want weapons to contain advanced metric formulations. Basic info, players can work it out. You should not necessarily know the best weapon for all circumstances by looking at two calculated numbers on the weapon description.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    In fact thinking about it there should not be any way to /who someone in the game or zone, ever. If you made friends thur could go on your friends lists. People lfg could use the lfg tool to post their name, class and level. As an addon to the lfg ui you could have lfb which would allow...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Please don't do that. Unless I know you, If I have not flagged myself as being available I don't want to be fielding random tells while doing something else or even in another group. It is not a good position to force someone into having to respond to you even though they could be busy. If...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I will second this. Rift's open grouping that could be toggled on and off was great. You knew if you can across others fighting and they were open to grouping you could jump right in and become a part of the group. On the other hand if you had specific goals or limited groups you could...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    And the only way to form groups is to use voice chat close enough to form groups. People don't want lfg ui windows but are onus with being able to /who for the entire world? If people want to foster communication and interaction than /who should cover only a 35m radius. Remove global and...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    These are things that SHOULD be discussed in whispers and tells not public and global channels. Some people act like whispers and tells are not player interaction.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Yeah forcing people to go anon as healers because every git in the game would send them tells asking them if they wanted to join their group was much better than just having a system where people who want to group could easily make it known. You way overplay the social aspects at trying to...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Most likely because people are using tells. I don't think moving some group formation discussion from public channels to tells is bad nor a failure.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    In the early days of eq, rangers could out tank warriors. As you noted it is quite a while before warriors were made useful.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Only gnome mages should be allowed to bind anyone. Only halfling Druids cast sow, and only troll wizards can teleport.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Disagree. As I mentioned with EQOA, the design necessitied both and your friends list was regularly expanded from people you found looking for groups. You ended up putting the good people on your friend's list so you looked to them first when needing to fill a slot. However the game needs to...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    To be fair though, many times my Druid had to go anon or else I could not actually play as I would get an endless stream of tells for ports. Which I never was bothered with when I was traveling or hanging out but was not feasible every three minutes when actually grouping/killing mobs.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    By the way the game that absolutely killed all other games when it came to getting players to group was EQOA. Group sizes were only four but almost nobody left town with less than four and as soon as someone left everyone was trying to fill the fourth slot. Why? Because a snake would give...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    To me they do need a global lfg tool. The breadth and width of which is "I am class x and level Y and looking for something to do." From there people can interact and determine if they will meet up etc etc. I think this small tool is necessary as it helps facilitate pushes groups over the...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I hope the game discussion through development is going to surpass "just do it like eq did."
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Yeah I am against the call of hero type spell but their intent is to have massive break points. I think at least a 12 hour debuff preventing such calling. Although honestly I prefer pois exist near dungeons that serve as hubs for people wanting to do the nearby dungeon. This would provide...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Another thought is a class that can summon. Dungeon stones or poi stones. Perhaps make it so all stones share the sane lore tag and all stones disappear within five minutes of logging off. This creates a way for a class to make money from other players and the stones could go to dungeon...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Except you have to balance this versus the reality that this is supposed to be a large spread out world with grouping as the primary focus. So there has to be a better solution than have 6-8 people suck it while one friend runs there. Like I suggested above, to get summoned to a dungeon you...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Personally, no matter the mechanic, and I am in favor of teleports and group meet ups etc I think the player always has to make at least a single trip there on foot. In other words you could not be teleported, pulled, or group stoned any place you had not physically traveled to first. If you...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Corpse recovery services and blood removal
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Yes plus I was high as fuck and nothing I typed was not being autocorrected
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I would argue because they are KICKSTARTING A PROJECT. Perhaps there needs to be a site for the second or third round of financing of a site or project. There is a huge difference. One in which I find the misuse of the world "kickstart" to be troublesome. To me kickstarting implies a virgin...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    My thought process would be unlike ke the money can go to work right away, thus allowing them To create in game assets which could be leveraged to bring in more funds. To be fair my pledge is only $45 which makes my ridk to reinvest daily easy compared to those will hundreds. Just the marked...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I do not believe he was donating tomhself. This was an additional round of financing onc ks was completed. It would be like brad promising to invest 500k once the ks completed
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Yeah I guess I misused flex. I agree with you. Make content what it is. If it is super challenging for six but easier for eight then so be it. I did not mean to use flex in terms of making encounters more dfficult depending on how many you bring. I just meant a group of eight will have an...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Yeah I don't know the rules either but if the ks is short I could see them just recreating this on the own. Thus able to use funds right away which in turn allows them to provide more substance to seek more funds. Of those of you currently pledged, how many would roll that pledge over to an...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    As you should be. Some would have had you spent five months on a non game related demo but then you would still be starting from scratch I assumed. If the ks goal is not met the project would die. If not I think an amazing video would be a band of adventurers fighting their way through...