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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I also believe mj said he would be investing 1.5 million of his own money from the beginning. So the first guy donating $100 was actsuslly upping the total to 1.500.100 dollars. As. It goes I don't think pantheon will be funded but I still leave a 40% chance they see huge donations at the...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    That is my concern at this point. I don't know if the audience exists, that is willing to front money. You can't blame it on day 1 ks. Someone in the old school target demo would check back in. To me this is put up or shut up by the fans. I am not convinced there are ~10k hardcore eq...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    One thing if think is going to cause ks to become heavily regulated is it is/will become a tool used by investors. Let us say you are looking to make a game and need two million dollars. I agree to provide thre two million dollars contingent on you running a 500k kick starter. If it makes...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I would love group sizes to flex to eight. Same as bigger raids. Let us not just have a single platform for success but instead create a foundation for various groups of friends to adventure together and have fun. As for the interview I thought It came across well and would chalk up anyone...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I don't need any of that. My Panties of piety automagically block all Pervs from sending me tells thinking I want to cyber with them.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I think i heard oxys are like $1 a miligram or whatever. So one 90 is $90. Get 90 in a bottle and you would have to pay like 37865
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    No but there is fucking rabies which sucks.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Uty thinks if he says "design doc"'enough someone will care like it is 2006.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    So if I write a ten million dollar check to fund the game and the developers give me a one off pair of "Psnties of Piety" is that pay to win? I think giving out rewards to build and finance the game is a lot different than having a pay store anyone can pony up to after release and pay to win...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Maybe after thirty minutes your corpse finds you. I can think of a ton of stuff to have camped in EQ which you never would have seen in 1-2 hour gameplay chunks unless you were struck with lightning lucky. So I am also curious as to how they can make both things possible.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    So what about the 72 hours I camped in karanas for rare spawn to get cleric shield. Because of spawn timer I did get the occasional two hour naps but can we expect more stuff like that?
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Maybe it will be like Wheel of Fortune and you have a bank to spend and then choose items as they pass by when Pat Sajak (or the much cooler Chuck Woolery) describe them to you. Then whatever is left over can be put on a gift certificate.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    What if they are just expansion add ons. You would still end up paying for them but you would not be able to buy them directly
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Stretch goals have been there since launch. Although halfling stretch goal should be 275k
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    You still get mousepad
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I am just the opposite. Open world zek pvp is almost always decided by who exploits the most. Zone camping, corpse camping, exploiting mechanics or just zerging. Actual ability to play is almost never a determining factor. Once in a blue moon you end up with an epic war but for the most...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Ironically where games have gone wrong are lore and story. Nobody remembers killing the dragon and the blob of pre scripted text that follows. What people remember are the stories and adventures they had alone, with a few friends or with a lot of friends. The point being games need to stop...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Last seven pages read like the drop out musings of middle school business basic drop outs.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Not sure what is wrong with you all. Week 9 is Art Faire week.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    No doubt they could have easily funded 125k-150K proof of concept that would have given them some working capital in order to have strong assets for the main ks and probably could have asked for more. Although worrying about what they should have done accomplishes little.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    The 25 tier needs to be there and should have been there from the beginning. With they point getting as many pledgers as possible. Your listed analysis does nothing to dispute that reality.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Yeah but screenshots and artwork just make the game look like every other game out there. Extremely hard to demonstrate the fundamental differences via screenshots and drawings. They are in a tough bind. As for brining in free volunteer labor any business has to be extremely careful about...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I know people will blame the ks but I have seen nothing to show me that there are legitimately 50k plus people old there who would want to pay and play and old school mmog. Waxing nostalgic is one thing but blaming this all on the kick starter is off base. I just don't think the actual base...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    No it was specifically drawn for a different project mcquaid started that neve happened. He decided to use the idea in this game. People really need to let that nonsense go. It is a part of pantheon and it was never used in a previously developed game.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    A name that does not sound like a herpes drug and an actual handgun.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Did you try getting high and listening to it again?
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I don't get it either. Servers are hardcore instances of the worst kind. I always found it odd that many instance opponents fully accept hardcore global instances that limit all interaction.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Where are troll trash mounts and garbage can lids as shields?
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Yeah but lots of people are in favor of uncompetitive competitiveness.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Facilities cost is way too high. They have talked about a modest space. At your low end a 2000 square footbspace would be $150 per foot. That is extremely high. I found a ton of San Diego office space for a small fraction of that. Also when calculating salaries you shouid tack on 20% for...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I have not used a spreadsheet but cheap and dirty overhead makes it fairly well off a revenues of 8 million dollars a year. Short of curt schilling mismanagement I don't see how they don't return a healthy profit on the high end but I am just eyeballing the costs. Their biggest cost is...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    4-8 million dollars from subscription revenues and 25-30 person staff seems like it could range from mildly profitable to highly profitable.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    You earn an f- in reading comprehension.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Well I am going to go get a big jar of vasoline so my ass doesn't get chapped from all the kissing.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Well since the cleric class had sub classes in it and was the first class launched it is pretty easy to see they did not invite the idea for crusaders.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    So your illogical conspiracy is based on your extreme hatred and dislike for Brad. I can tell you this there is no chance you dislike brad more than I used to dislike him, no way no how. All you have seemingly done is come here half cocked and just taken a bunch of cheap shots. Pretty clear...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    How about I just call you dumb and we leave it at that. You think they magically changed one of the crusader sub classes to warrior the night before release of the class because a few people complained about no warrior. Why you think your position is more reasonable, sensible or logical than...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Why? Because Ben said they had already shared all the assets they had? This has nothing to do with them having fleshed out general classes and sub classes Some of you have miraculously low threshold for comprehension. I realize some people think being close minded and hateful somehow...