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  1. MikhailBakunin

    The Best Form of Government Thread - Communism Discussions

    The problem with that is that they're directly contradicting themselves. The actual metaphor is a "Scotsman" from the other side of the planet that's never actually heard of Scotland.
  2. MikhailBakunin

    The Best Form of Government Thread - Communism Discussions

    The problem with the invocation of the No-True-Scotsman fallacy is that there are people who aren't Scotsmen. The fact of the matter is there were socialists who understood the conflict between statism and eliminating classes. Their ideas produced societies that, while they may not have had...
  3. MikhailBakunin

    The Best Form of Government Thread - Communism Discussions

    Do we have to go through state-capitalism or are you claiming that's what we have now (sort of true given the way the government primes the pump)? That's the collapse of the confederacy under the military weight of the North, not just the elimination of chattel slavery as a legally enforceable...
  4. MikhailBakunin

    The Best Form of Government Thread - Communism Discussions

    lol Well despite your fatalism on the matter, I think history says this isn't actually a necessary outcome. You have it backwards I think. The issue is that the users are prevented by the state from seizing capital. Throwing down the reins of the old order doesn't leave a vacuum of power...
  5. MikhailBakunin

    The Best Form of Government Thread - Communism Discussions

    The examples you're calling "communism" are actually state-capitalist. Communism is a classless society. What the Bolsheviks (and the Maoist and every other right-wing "socialist" movement) did was put themselves in the same seats of power whose very existence was the at core of their...
  6. MikhailBakunin

    The Best Form of Government Thread - Communism Discussions

    Imagine a country with a dictator that literally owns everything in the country. It's a system of maximal inequality. Do you think that's compatible with any sensible conception of socialism? I think you give capital over to its users.
  7. MikhailBakunin

    The Best Form of Government Thread - Communism Discussions

    What I mean is that Venezuela (despite a few tiny overtures to socialism made by the Bolivarian movement), was still essentially a capitalist system with government bureaucrats serving the function of capitalists. Nationalization and socialization are not the same thing. Even when the...
  8. MikhailBakunin

    The Sci-Fi Book Thread

    I'm just starting the fifth book of The Expanse series. Pretty great so far. There's a show on SyFy (that deviates in a few ways that make me like the books more).
  9. MikhailBakunin

    The Best Form of Government Thread - Communism Discussions

    Push-back would have let me run at the mouth more. Oh well.
  10. MikhailBakunin

    The Expanse

    Anyone else read(ing) the books?
  11. MikhailBakunin

    The Best Form of Government Thread - Communism Discussions

    I don't know how to interpret that. I don't remember which one you are or what you think.
  12. MikhailBakunin

    The Best Form of Government Thread - Communism Discussions

    This is why you don't have state-capitalism.
  13. MikhailBakunin

    The Best Form of Government Thread - Communism Discussions

    Is this an actual question or a troll question?
  14. MikhailBakunin

    The Best Form of Government Thread - Communism Discussions

    Your tears are delicious.
  15. MikhailBakunin

    Donation Status Enabled

    While I can appreciate the sentiment...will you still be the admin...you capitalist pig?