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...wat WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME THIS A MONTH AGO!?

I was in your place a month ago, here's the options as I saw them: -WoD comes with a boost to 90 for one character, so you won't need the previous expansion to start playing -At some point, MoP will be free anyways with the game (probably with WoD's release, but maybe a little after - by...

There's probably a billion little things that helped, but by far and away the biggest reason had to have been the terrible technical issues at launch. MMOs rarely get a second chance. Everything else pales in comparison to the bombed launch, so much that they're really insignificant in the grand...

I was 89 Sunday morning. I openly admit that I played entirely too much yesterday, but by the end I was 90, iLevel 485, Black Prince rep maxed, 4 of one sigil, 10 of the other. I hope to get the rest of the other sigil today from a few more ToT raids I need to run while the buff is still active...

I'd say the opposite. There's tons to pick from, and due to WoW's success, there's a lot of options out there. GW2 is no-sub and looks great, and is lots of fun for a while. FFXIV fits that bill as well - and is even more great if you're a big FF nerd. Wildstar just launched and a lot of people...

The reasons aren't near that cryptic. Smed's even said why. VG had a tiny population. They tried their best to give it attention. It was ran in the negative for years, taking money from other projects to try and get it to be profitable. After enough years of failing, it was given the axe. They...

Denaut is on the forums too - pretty sure he was a Vangaurd dev.

On my kinmates has like...multiple accounts, many toons, has every crafting profession maxed, etc. Guy has played forever. I only say this because I feel he's a source of truth and in general really knows LOTRO history. The last "normal" dungeon/raid type content was the Erebor cluster. It...

Yeah, FWIW, I never said anything to anyone about it in group chat. I'm not that type of dick. I just mentally noted it. Everything died just fine, so it's not like it mattered.

Yep! I was just running them once to see them, that's it. When I buy MoP (and have enough free weekends in a row to justify a fucking sub, man I hate subs), I'll just quest to 90 then hit up Timeless Isle, then LFR. But I like to always see old content at least once. I'd like to check out the...

Yep, over on SA, everyone will tell you that's the sole reason to play this game. They've a really good job of creating Middle Earth (within MMO restrictions).

As I said in my post - I was just checking out the 5-mans I had missed.

Does recount do a thing where it doesn't count numbers correctly or something? Because I haven't played since the original Cata launch raids. I picked up the MoP trial, did the first zone, so I'm in quest greens. I did all the 5-mans I missed: ZG, ZA, and the 3 time-travel Heroic Cata...

I still play LOTRO, and they do kinda sorta have group content still? It's just not, ya know...good. There's no new dungeons, but this last update does have an area that's nothing but group mobs with quests to kill the group mobs. Also some of the epic story quests ask if you want to proceed...

Potato Salad is more interesting than Brad. Why do we have this thread again?

I haven't played since I raided the first Cataclysm raid. Do people feel MoP + month sub (so about $30 if I buy the CD key online) is worth it for leveling 85-90? As in, leveling content is enjoyable? I might dip into some dungeons and the flex raiding too. Just wondering if the content is fun...

And in 2013 they gave it to EQ:Next, who had nothing but that voxel farm engine, a couple of models, and a crap ton of "ideas written down on a napkin". Maybe they got their own personal sand art demonstration too.

As in "this will actually be a game that you can technically play"?

I always forget about EVE. It's definitely the rarity, and a large part is due to, like you said, them having their niche corner of the market. That's not exactly the same. They relaunched as basically an entirely different game. It wasn't a case of patches and some additional content. They...

I can't think of any situation where a MMO was able to recover from a crappy launch. MMO players really do like whatever is new and shiny. Fixing issues and improving gameplay barely ever, if ever, will repair a huge loss of population.

So I quit following this game after the second or third round of beta weekends, and completely ignored the launch. I know there were bets going on about sales and all that - how that turn out? What were the sales? Did bet losers follow through? And were things less shitty for launch? Was...

Don't worry man, they have ONE GUY all over it!

Don't worry, I'll treat you right baby. But seriously just ignore him.

Hahahahaha, they have ONE GUY working on the actual software. ONE GUY

Guys Dawn is still happening, it's already in late alpha! Glitchless

If they can make a rudimentary alpha product with their current team and funding, then they're fine. But I think that's BEYOND a long shot. Let's just play math! I'd consider a "rudimentary alpha" to consist of the following: -One zone/dungeon with some monster packs in it (doesn't even have...

$60 box with one month, $15 / month sub after that, cash shop for cosmetics, rumored FTP transition in about six months.

Most people on this forum who say they're going to play seem to fall into the latter. A few have said that they just really enjoy the start of a MMO when there's the rush (good MMO or not), some are going just to PVP because it's a fresh PVP game and hasn't died off yet.

Utnayan pretty much answered for me (something I thought I'd never say!) I would add though, that I also like the old-school EverQuest/Project1999 group-centric PVE. And a big part of TESO's PvE that made it such a slog for me was my dislike of the combat. Especially compared to something...

You do realize that finding TESO's PVE horribly boring doesn't mean that someone finds all other PVE horribly boring, right?

The "boring vs engaging" line is subjective. I found the game to be mediocre in the story-telling, which can be passable, if the combat was so extremely boring and non-engaging. Level 3 was the farthest I could get before thinking "$60 + sub for this? I'll go play one of many other games that...

Just a small trip report - last time I went to the ice zone, this time I went to a beach and took some quest to an undead ruin. Even though the story was semi-interesting, the bow combat was still so fucking boring and wrong that it was a struggle to finish that quest line even. I quit at...

Ugh. So apparently this 22gb download doesn't extract in place, and needs double the space to download then install. Or something. Let it download through the night, got back from work today and it says "not enough space". I uninstall a couple of older games, there's still the 22gb TESO folder...

Fuck this, I'm going to sign up for the forums, and take payment for services and items I'll provide once the game launches too. 1k currency = $100 Powerleveling = $50/hour Camp an item for you = $40/hour (Note that I will never do these things...just take the money)

Side note to say that I really like this new less-ranty more-constructive Utnayan. I'm taking the time to redownload and install this 30gb piece of shit this weekend. Lets see if it can hold my attention for even an hour this time before I hate it (going bow again) and go back to D3 for some...

I'm shocked that they've gotten $118k.

Force videos are typically pretty good and watchable, this one too. Those changes sound great - is every weekend a beta weekend now if you've gotten in before? If so, I might reinstall and try it again.

That's awesome looking - what is that, and where is it from? Hell I can't tell if it's a to-scale model someone built (with some computer effects added maybe), or a 3D scene someone rendered, or what.

Some better googling than what I had failed at earlier brought me to this:Mists of Pandaria Trial - Battle.net Support Seems you're right. That's terrible, oh well. I have a scroll of resurrection someone randomly sent me too, maybe that'll work.

So I've kinda had a WoW itch, but I think it just needs a small scratch and I'll be fine. I never bought MoP, and my account says I can do a trial. Anyone know if that will give me a trial (10 days I think) of MoP content, or will it just be 10 free sub days of content I've already purchased...