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Hey, I think this is the only Wildstar thread on the internet I read that hasn't leaked the patch notes yet!

I dunno, the default being open multiplayer, makes it sound like this is the correct forum. No right/wrong answer. I think this is attracting a lot of UO fans though, which may sway it.

Well, I just think it's a case of beating the dead horse, like Ut unfortunately has a tendency to do. I think everyone understands both sides, and can agree to see each other's viewpoints, and just differ on how to react on it. That's fine. We should move on though, because like some of those...

You may not be a fan of it, but it was far from awful. I grew very, very tired of it myself, but awful? Not by a longshot. It was extremely well done, extremely consistent, and they used it amazingly to bring their game world to life. I hate that it spawned so much....cargo cult MMO design...

I think those ideas area awesome for the "imersive virtual world". Sometimes they translate into "fun game" though, or get boiled down to boring mechanics like "oh let me buy 10 stacks of water and rations at the vendor". Generally speaking though, I'm all for it. Breaks up the monotony and...

Very cool livestream. They need to be showing more non-scripted in-game footage if they're taking money. I still don't think it's representative of how EQNL itself will actually play, as he was obviously god-moding it, and it sounds like they want even EQNL to be more of a world. I want to...

Agree completely! That's why I like LOTRO's system. It definitely has some nickel-diming from the store, but it also gives you lots of points for free and ways to get them in-game. The only money I've spent on that game is for content, which I'm happy to do, and because of that I've spent more...

I do not, but I'm very happy with buy to play. Simply because I don't like "wasting money" because I have a vacation coming up, or something. I think I'd be more happy with a more granular subscription, like week-to-week. I understand the financial reasons why they pick monthly though, and...

Red99 is not P99. You were talking about Vanguard PVP. The EQ emulated equivalent would be Red99.

What I'm hearing is that McEverQuaid (my new fan fiction name for this unnamed MMO) needs to have Burned Woods.

I was half expecting his next line to be "It's the MMO we deserve...but not the one we need right now"

I won't claim to speak for everyone, but even EQN bitching aside, I think this round of bitching is just for their audacity to charge a decent sum of money for a game that they have comparatively nothing to show for [compared to various Kickstarter campaigns that have a lot of freeform video and...

Hah! Who said the only two options are "copy vanilla EQ" and "copy WoW"? Because I didn't. If I had, then yes, you'd have a good counter-point. And someone did ask for long downtime. Maybe not explicitly 10 minutes, but it was conveyed. Multiple people did with their top list things. And...

SOE On Why EQN Landmark Is Its *Real* Next Big Thing | Rock, Paper, Shotgun They're basically saying EQNL will be the tool everyone plays and uses to build worlds (including quests and what-not), and they'll use the exact same tool, plus maybe a tiny bit of other things, to make EQN the...

Is that a joke? Emulated servers have even less population than real servers. Especially when you can play this one for free (just don't expect to equip any quest gear ever). If Red99 can only get, what, a hundred or so people on it these days, I'd imagine this might have...5.

I dunno, I hope it is a literal copy / paste of EQ with moar grafixs, long boring 10 minute downtime in between mobs, so the game can launch with 20 servers, be consolidated down to 1 after two months, then blame it's failure on something other than horrible design.

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Nice job "dropping the f-bomb" right at the start of the livestream there, Scooter. Is it because of that Fred Savage joke someone made earlier?

It'll totally be that combat doc.

Meh, a bunch of non-answers and dodging questions, I'm not surprised and I'm not angry. Did anyone realistically expect anything else? No company that does this (even in other industries, I'm that big of a nerd) ever uses these 'community engagement' things to actually spread info. This is just...

Most Kickstarters I've seen have some tech video, someone running around a forest or something. If they've already got video up to show that isn't 100% embarrassing, I'll be impressed.

I love quests, just not what it means today. Quests should not be for main progression. Epic quests were great. Level 20 armor quests were great.

Yeah, I don't consider WoW 1.0'ers and EQ Neckbearders separate people. Shit, everyone played WoW (me too obviously). I was just curious if there was anything particularly compelling, but I might be willing to give a WOW 1.0'ish game a shot. I still don't think that could keep me past the 1-3...

So can anyone tell me what is appealing about this game to users of this forum, given what this forum is generally based on (that being old EQ nerds wanting more EQ). And I don't mean this snippy, or in a thread-shitting manner. I've read some about the game, and I'm not seeing why it...

No, they don't, at least I don't think so. I think EQN was just jealous that Wildstar did a cryptic thing to announce hoverboards, which looked cooler than parkour movement, so this is his response. I doubt it has anything to do with anything. And you know who loved Vaguebooking? Hitler.

Hell, even freaking LOTRO has some challenging group content if you do it on-level with typical quest-gear rewards. But it's not required, so you just skip it doing the easy solo game. Just human nature. Plenty MMOs (in fact, almost all of them) DO have challenging content, just noone will...

Hrm...so which wins, hoverboards or parkour? EQN better step it's game up.

Graphics serve only to provide immersion into the virtual world, which I find them competent enough to do. Seriously, most of us here are old EQ vets, probably play a lot of P99, even some EQ1, etc - and the first thing is ZOMG THE GRAPHICS? Really?

Pft, those videos don't even have any parkour, garbage game.

Yeah you know what's totally productive? Thread-shitting for the next 2-4 years while this project is in development with nothing but drug jokes. I think that's what Quaid (who I disagree with like..95% of the time) is getting at. It's pointless and stops any discussion about an actual game...

I don't know why you guys are saying they don't have a central vision, when they clearly do. The vision is green. Green that they think they get by MASS MARKET APPEAL SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE because that's been working out so well for almost every MMO made in the past 7 years or whatever.

Back to the video and their tier progression: couldn't it have been shorter by saying "It's literally Minecraft". And then they showed some boring objects with boring textures on it. I feel like I missed something. Did they at least have bump mapping going on?

This is pretty much the truth (even though I can't tell if you're trying to be sarcastic). Even in EQ, all people did was bitch about having to group, and there was much hatred spewed forth towards classes that could solo well. This is (one of) the reasons many people left EQ and started in...

Ah, I'm not as up-to-date on things. I assumed this was an MMO. Didn't realize it was more like....I guess the Minecraft options?

Wait, isn't that exactly what this entire board is clamoring for? Someone to make a MMO true to their "vision", and let it be niche?

Zoning - some games I found it jarring and troublesome (EQ, Vanguard). Some I didn't (FFXIV). However in some games, the great no-zoning is really nice (indoors in VG, outdoors in LOTRO, for example). My preference is to no loading ever once in game, and to just load things in a bubble around a...

The point of these isn't to actually get information out about a game, or for them to get feedback. Same as the EQN Roundtable garbage. It's just get people to *feel* like they're being involved, to get people thinking about the game, to give a reason to make news about the game, etc. It's just...

I'd say it'll be a new IP. With EQN coming out, I don't know why SOE would let them use the EQ name. And VG has nothing but bad connotations for the most part associated with it. As far as feature list, I'm guessing the following can be expected: -Probably wide variety of races -Probably...

Anyone mind copy/pasting whatever he's been saying on twitter? It's blocked at work.

Hrm, wonder which has more meat to it. *rimshot* ;-)