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Exactly. There's no need to invent new elemental gods, rename Bristlebane and etc. It's not like the Seraphs have to be just 9 gods, or wtf. It's like the Chewbacca defense, it just doesn't make sense and it's also a bit of a kick in the nuts to the RPers.

What AV were you playing? Early AV, was one of the best parts of Vanilla WoW until every Timmy was 60 and they started nerfing it hard. Training what's his face from the graveyard into the alliance never got old.

This made me laugh for some reason. We will see if anything new shows up at Gamescon, I think PAX will be limited to press interviews.

That's right buddy. Who needs any sort of consistency or continuity right?

It's more about whether or not the game is Everquest.

I don't mind some changes to the lore it's the fact there are so many of them that's the problem. Nothing wrong with a little simplification but this is a little crazy.

The heart just adds that extra... "I'm going to kill you but in a sweet loving carebear way". Nice.

Exactly.

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https://www.everquestnext.com/downlo...e-teir-dal.pdf We've got some story and a bit of lore.

It's all about continuity. If they're going to call it an EQ game they have to have some continuity. I'm willing to give the mthe benefit of the doubt (against my better judgment) on the mechanics but not on a retarded storyline.

Dude they were twisted by Innoruuk which explains why they're blue, like being SK's and Necros and living underground. There's no good reason for any of that in EQN lore.

They've revealed enough. The godlore is terrible. No Innoruuk? Dark Elves are just a caste of Elves? That shit has to go. Star Trek was a reboot. As Dahkoht said it's more like a curb stomp. A major purpose of lore in a reboot is continuity - Kirk is still Captain. Spock is still a Vulcan...

I'm still holding out hope for a South Park MMO

Eh, I'll go further than that. As designed it'll be great - it's freaking Diablolcraft + possibly eve. It's just the fucking misuse of the IP that's driving me nuts. Mangling what Furious said earlier, if this wasn't called EQ I'd be all fanboi about it. Edit: It's like getting a bagel...

I'm done with "realistic" stuff until we get the honest-to-God can't differentiate between real and CGI visual effects. Sometime in the next 20 years if we don't get hit by an asteroid. Until then I'll take Pixar/Disney/DreamWorks.

It's interesting to read the blog about that video - it covers the problem with voxels: http://procworld.blogspot.com/2013/08/lean-trees.html Small things and thin things are difficult and small things and thin things that are close together are almost impossible.

I am not EQN's biggest fan, but tbh I have no problem with EQN's look and I mean both the girl, lion-o and the foliage. Only lion-o's armor was over the top. It's probably because I saw Vanguard's character graphics age before my eyes from sweet (2007) to meh (2010).

At least Fansy will be happy: the Good Guys won.

Wish I could +1 you for this. Made me laugh.

As I've said, and where I disagree with Malakriss and etchazz, I'm interested in the voxel tech and combat mechanics. Could be very fun, they just have to stop screwing up the IP and it could be a very solid game. Not EQ3, but still a solid enjoyable game.

It's not even close. That's the problem. I have no issue with them changing things around to fit the must-start-in-Qeynos gameplay but they kept nothing that matters save a few of the names. That's not how you reboot lore. Have the lore devs/Butler never read a comic reboot? Did they watch...

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/wiki...irate_of_Water Why would you throw away this lore? This is good shit. Also insert prexus related humorous jpeg here, on phone.

I don't hate the mechanics. Some interesting stuff. Its the misuse of the ip that's the problem. also qwerty should have pulled his punches and waited for more info, might not have gotten banned

Art is whatever. Voxel trees are fine. You won't notice either if the game is any good. The lore is the abomination. There are no ninjas in eq. Dark elves are not the warrior caste of the elves. Prexus is not god of elemental plane of water.

gone wild is only reason to browse reddit.

Yep. The mods aren't bothering with downvoting anymore - they're just removing threads left and right. Georgeson probably thinks everything is fine in EQfan land based on reddit.

Convo didn't remove it. The Reddit mods are basically an arm of SOE PR. Anything remotely negative will get shitcanned.

Tried FFXIV and didn't hate it, but just couldn't get past the moogles are wtf they are. Enjoy.

I emailed Powah and offered to write an OpEd on EQN lore for eqn. So we'll see. I'm okay with not getting EQ3 anytime soon, I'm not okay with EQN being released with the bastardized lore. I really want to know SOE's thought process: -We want four elemental gods. Check. -We have four...

Twitter. #eqnext #fixthelore #Tunare #Xegony #DarkElvesWorshipInnoruuk Etc.

Bah. Reddit sucks, the only posts that get upvoted are those praising SOE/EQN. Any real issues with the game - such as the lore problems - get buried or removed by the moderators.

All ogres are ninjas. Problem solved.

Yep. They should have made a new IP.

Not a fight they should have picked. Someone at SOE needed to stand grand - people would be much less nonplussed over the combat/class changes if they knew that part of picking up the Shadowknight class (if you didn't start with it) involved spending a lot of time doing errands for Priests of...

I agree with rolx. The point was to jutify starting from one city. The thing is, they could have started from one city and still had DE's worshipping Innoruuk, Trolls & ogres being fat and nasty and etc. There is a lack of imagination on the part of both the lore devs and Marketing. @Kudos...

I should have been more clear - they could have made some changes to the lore to justify building from Qeynos, but exactly this: there was no need for wholesale changes to the god lore, Dark Elves, and etc.

http://www.vice.com/read/drilling-a-...=vicetwitterus Drilling a hole in your head? Helpful.

It's coming for EQN... The Reddit crowd will be thrilled.