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Damn, it is true Vanguard has warts but given the clone train of crap we have seen in the MMO space Vanguard has value for a play through or 2. The dungeon crawls, world design, classes and group based gameplay are enough for quite a bit of gaming ( easily over 30 days ) and better in those...

I updated the OP with my progress and will do so when i finish up.. been going well but i wish i played with 4 and not 6 chars i was steamrolling stuff.

I would be interested in an open world game with open world pvp, not the WoW bg/arena model again and again. Hopefully they don't do the pvp gear crap as well Resilience or whatever.

Is there pvp gear ( as in gear with a specific pvp stat u can only get via pvp ? )

Do disciple psionist and u will have an amazing time. Or DK / BMG or DK shaman. I have done DK/Sham and Disc/psi and Disc/psi owns all.

The camera takes a bit of getting used to and here is how i found i can tolerate it. 1. Use character mode for outdoors 2. In dungeons switch between explore mode and character mode. ( more explore mode but depends on area ). 3. and always use click to move, without that its really annoying...

So again no open world pvp.

I don't know much about wildstar, but by reading into what you are saying it seems we are looking at a WoW and/or RIFT pvp model here ? ( BGs, arenas etc )

/agree on bullshit In the end, when we see something working ( what 2 years from now ? ) I will judge. If he is truly making a VG2 type game I would certainly love to see it and try it.

I am almost finished with chapter 4. Have to say it is really getting good now ( chapter 3+ ) but early I was not that into it other than nostalgia... I also recently played BG:EE through chapter 4 so I am really enjoying seeing the areas in 3d that i just saw in 2d.

Are there any open source-ish MMO frameworks out there ? I would imagine there are tools out there to build something... even mod another game like Skyrim or something... anyone know of any projects like this going on ?

can someone give me a comparison of this game to older titles ? I am trying to see if it is worth my time. I am not looking for themepark hell at this point...

Suggestion for anyone trying this.... get this modhttp://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view....Detail&id=403 Basically what it does is remember buffs for your whole party ( that is per character what buff they cast before a fight and on whom )... then you save it into this rod and click the rod to...

The prestige class pack mod they included ( kaedrins ) is why i keep coming back to nwn2 and playing... just so many class choices. My bard will be bardcher ( bard, arcane archer type ). In other adventures I have played a CC wiz with backstab / rogue levels - "Arcane Trickster" basically...

I don't go looking for bugs but occasionally i see some strangeness around NPC scripts ( best to save before dialogue ).. I also run a ton of mods and they all work with it.. character mods, textures, etc etc etc.. Installation is easy just copy a bunch of files to a folder in your...

I have been playing this lately and its quite a bit of fun... here is a little graphic comparison. The area is Dryad's Falls -Dryad Falls baldurs gate Dryad Falls Original map: Video of in game original Dryad Falls Now my screenshot of Dryad Fall's

The MMO market as we Knew it is gone. My guess is these new games are making more $$ than the old ones.. with a cater to casual, casino like atmosphere... Its funny how there is gambling in nearly every MMO now... its there. Fuck you WoW, Farmville and every person in the game industry that...

It is working for me now, one question to those that have been playing... is the whole game like quest to quest to quest like the start ?

Not sure what is happening but i can't login anymore... and when i apply the code in the receipt from the pre-order it just hangs... I also don't see a charge on my CC either, i wonder if they cancelled my pre order ?

Cool, if anyone else is on a different server ( that i can access ) let me know ... I will keep an eye on the foh one. thanks for the info.

couple questions. 1. is this worth buying ? ( note I am an old school MMO type, not looking for neverwinter 2 / *insert new shallow MMO here * 2. Is there a guild you guys have going ? ( what server if so ). thanks

But will they relaunch rift as it should have been with true dynamic content ? They really missed the mark when the decision was made to scrap that approach... RIFT would stand much taller if it was about the dynamic content and open world pvp around that.. Technology is there.... perhaps ...

It seems pretty clear to me that flawed as it was, eq and similar games were built on party based mechanics... Think D&D class roles....why ? Because that was the point, you now can have other players with you there that you can depend on... and that was what made an MMO so fun and immersive...

Gotta love those publishers and their designs... which will keep me from playing most MMOs or likely any ever again... crap crap and crap... guys... don't give em your money this time if it sucks !!!

So according to this... all we can hope for here is smed's new great stuff is : A new way to hook players longer and make them spend more ... or translated . . . they meaning "SOE" are really exited about some design that came out of a breakthrough way to make more money developing MMOs.

Thanks, what about weapon skills can u bascially mix any combo ? I was going to do shaman and then something different like ranged, but no idea if that could work / not.

Hey guys... i am trying this out but i have ZERO shadowrun experience... any thoughts on character creation or a guide i could look at ? I am not sure how to build / progress character and which skills have synergy with what classes etc.. ( i.e. A thrown weapon shaman ? ) .... stuff like that..

I get both sides of this... on one hand I feel Draegan's pain with promises, marketing and then unfortunate reality but on the other hand the eq style of gameplay has always suited me best and I have hope that SOE will recognize the hole in the market right now and sieze it... That is with...

Its lame .... and yes not new... but lame... So every <insert class here> is the same ? no thanks.

i did not read most of the articles here but they all seem to talk eqNext then talk about EQ and glorify it... is it possible they are actually doing this right ? http://www.tentonhammer.com/everques...r-epic-weapons

There should simply be a penalty for camping something.,.. nothing wrong with killing someone once, or even twice its the level 50 or whatever grief camping a low level that is stupid... pvp is great, grief-ing is retarded.

There goes wildstar... seriously 1 weapon per class ?

Bring back contested raid mobs and do away with the PVP reward mini game... make the world yield rewards and have us fight over them... there is your meaningful pvp.

yes, yes and yes... We need this stuff back... ! ! ! All MMO devs should play DDO dungeons before they design a thing and realize, those designs are where all of this crap came from in the first place... that being D&D . Dungeons were about environment too at one point... "you know getting...

Multiplayer CiV ? Anyone tried it ?

well after TBC it all became a joke... nothing was very hard including heroics... with the exception of a few most pulls were TANK AE crap out of mobs, corrall mobs and AE the crap out of them. repeat you are done. Vanilla was a different story.. .but still a step down in difficulty from EQ2...

Yes, this would be nice

I would like to see loot tables grow based on death... in other words a penalty for dying to an encounter can be the monster gets your items or an item or something.. i mean that is the way this is supposed to work anyway... you find loot in dungeons mostly from other adventurers that died...

I think you are making some invalid assumptions here. I can name several MMOs that don't seem to fit your model that had content that was challenging and not everyone could beat. Eq, eq2, Vanguard, ddo to name a few. However the difference seems to be the need to group to enter the...

More sub genres need to come IMO... MMO-A-RPGs , MMO-RPGS , MMOs that are worlds ...those that are games ...to name a few .. Lately we have gotten more games and ARPGs... We need one of the MMO-RPGS in a real world again