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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    brad should use his other "connections" to fund this game. ever see the movie "blow"? george jung would have had this shit funded already!
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    completely wrong. there was also a time factor involved in EQ for death. if your guild wiped on a raid, it could take upwards of almost an hour to get everyone rezed, rebuffed, and ready to go again. meanwhile, if you were competing with a rival guild for a spawn, that was time for them to make...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    i really think your hate of brad and co. is misplaced. i don't think they're out to purposely rob anyone. i think they genuinely want to make this game and are just desperate to come up with the money by any means necessary. is it shady? sounds like it. would i give them money at this point? not...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    deep down, i still hope brad finds someone to invest and gets to make this game. i know for me personally, it's probably the only chance i have left to play another MMO, and i've been dying to play another MMO. still need to work on the name though. i just don't like pantheon. it sounds like a...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    it may be in the black now, but just eking above the break even point wasn't the goal of SWTOR. it was supposed to be a WoW killer (and the fact that it was star wars and bioware, it should have been).
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    ok, so it's exactly like WoW now: a lobby game disguised as a MMO. got it. now i'm definitely no longer interested in fall of the fallen.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    you do realize that SWTOR cost like $300 million to make? i don't think anyone who is in charge is calling this game a success. this game was a nightmare of fukushima proportions.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    yeah, no kidding. there was a game called SWTOR that he might want to check out. in fact, i'm pretty sure if you looked up failure in the dictionary, SWTOR would be the first example you'd see.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    when was the last time he posted here (not that i particularly blame him since just about everyone here is a cynical asshole)?
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    you're a fucking idiot. i didn't give a cent to this KS, and i would never give a cent to any KS. it's not my job to fund the making of a game, if the game is good, i will pay for it and pay a sub for it. that's my role as the consumer. do you give hundreds of dollars to movie directors so they...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    you can't be that fucking stupid. just because brad couldn't get the money with a failed KS that was horribly put together doesn't mean the market doesn't exist.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    exactly this. which is why i have zero interest in EQN. that and the disney/pixar animations.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    you're confusing science fiction with space opera. there were a lot of science fiction movies, there weren't any space opera's (think of the flash gordon series of the 1930's). there weren't any movies out even remotely anything like star wars when he made it. so there obviously wasn't a...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    there was absolutely no market for a space opera when george lucas made star wars. everyone was certain it would fail (even george lucas himself and the actors in the movie). yet it didn't fail, went on to be one of the highest grossing films of all time and completely changed movie making...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    there is a market. just because there has been one half assed attempt at it with a KS that looked like it took 20 minutes to put together doesn't mean the market doesn't exist. by that idiotic reasoning star wars should have failed because when it released there was no market for a space opera...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    a gold turd is still a turd.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    then go fucking play WoW or GW2 or any other shitty game that's out that's "what you're looking for" and stop shitting up this thread! holy fuck. this thread started because there are people who are sick and tired of that model and are looking for something more like the original EQ, which we...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    because unlike you i have proof that this idea doesn't work. GW2, rift, and about a dozen other games that are literally exactly what EQN is doing have all failed. why would EQN be any different? if this idea is so grand, then you'd be playing GW2, but you're not, because that game sucks. the...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    sorry, but you're wrong. EQN literally already exists: it's called GW2, and it sucks. it's a failed idea. the "Everyone can do everything" mantra doesn't work. homogenizing everything isn't the answer. if you combine chocolate, vanilla, strawberry, and mint chip all together, you get a bowl of...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    i agree 100%. if they called the game something other than EQ, it wouldn't be as upsetting. but calling a game that is a GW2/WoW/rift abortion everquest is insulting.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    it shouldn't be OUR job to fund HIS game. we are not fucking share holders. if the game goes on to be hugely successful, all you get is your in game horse and a thank you letter. sorry, not enough for me. if he wants to take his company public and i can buy shares, MAYBE i'd think about it.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    this post kickstarter shit is starting to look like a ponzi scheme..
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    i think, at the very least, they should have put together a video to show something of the game. if they have indeed been working on it for several months, they could have at least gotten a 2 minute vid of the game together to put it on the KS page. i think that much alone could have gotten...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    apples and oranges here. brad hasn't technically failed this time. he just doesn't have the financial backing to make the game he wants. failure this time around would be if he had 20 million to make the game and it turned out like VG. that would be failure. not having the scratch to even get...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    knowing you in real life must be like having cancer and ALS simultaneously, only less enjoyable.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    i'm extremely upset that it doesn't look like this KS is going to reach its goal. i hope brad finds another way to fund this game. to everyone who's pointing their finger saying "i told you so", fuck off...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    maybe brad and co. can get investors (the real money) to make this game, then all this KS bullshit will be pointless.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    yay! power finally back after 4 days (fuck you, PECO). someone fill me in on the madness.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    exactly my point. what if instead of making curb your enthusiasm with the money/reputation that larry david made creating seinfeld, he instead decided to have the people who watched seinfeld pay to make his new show for him? think that would have worked? i doubt it.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    i agree. there are a lot of parallels between the video game industry and the movie industry. there's a big difference between saying "i'd like to go see a movie like that" and "i'd be willing to fund a movie like that."
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    you're arguing two completely different things here. there are plenty of people who are looking for a more challenging MMO, and one that returns the genre to its roots. however, the number of people who are willing to give money to a kickstarter is way lower. if a game like EQ was made today...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    i agree. i do not want summoning stones at all. they're a stupid idea. then your game is nothing more than a lobby game and the actual world doesn't matter. if you're in one area of the world, and there are 3 or 4 dungeons/outside areas in your level range, then you can stay there and group with...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    i can't believe this lfg discussion has been going on for damn near 50 pages. is it really that big of a deal? have a LFG tool, make it limited to a local area in the game, no insta ports to meeting stones or anything dumb like that, and bam, problem solved. i don't see what the big deal is. EQ...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    it's been a long fucking time, but being that i played a wizard, i believe that the wakening lands was the one off of kael. burning woods i believe was from kunark, and was the one near karnor's castle. if i'm wrong, sue me.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    ah, now i get it; you were the asshole in EQ that no one liked.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    or, maybe if you weren't an antisocial fuckwad you could try making friends who would be willing to teleport you around? or maybe there could be potions you can purchase that will transport you around? its pieces of shit like you that this game is not supposed to be made for. go back to WoW.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    one of the things that made EQ so memorable, was gradually expanding out into the world. i started in felwithe, gradually made my way to orc camp, then to crushbone, then to unrest, then mistmoore, etc. it was fucking awesome. traveling around in EQ is still to this day the very best memory i...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    wow, you can predict the future? why are you wasting time here and not picking lottery winners and making billions on the stock market?
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    i'm liking more and more about what i'm hearing and seeing with this game. definitely something i'd want to play. even if the KS doesn't go, i'm hoping they can take whatever they do have and find a publisher/investor. forget the $800,000, i'd like to see where they could take this with $15 or...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    i go away for the weekend, and there's over 100 new posts. someone fill me in, please. anything pertinent?