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Actually I still play Janes Longbow 2, C&C Red Alert, and Civ....well shit, the entire series. I also have my own EQEMU on my home computer I play often, although with school back in session not as much as I want to. There is an audience for the game. The industry is packed with garbage games...

Its quite a stretch to say what works for a region of 25 million people will work for 300 million people.

You didn't give a specific example, however its my experience that when we oppose legislation that might benefit us, we are not opposing the help, but the overall cost associated with that help. If something is passed, but it will cost the taxpayers billions of dollars, we would rather see that...

This shit got funded. Brad....dude.

You haven't..........missed............a thing. No, seriously. You haven't.

Exactly. Any investor is going to say,"Are you serious? Look at your kickstarter. Why in the world would I invest in this?".

Of course that is how its worked in Washington. I wasn't stating this was a new perk of donating money that Obama is using to pad his campaign coffers. The problem is, didn't he run in 08' promising hope and change? Did he not state it was no longer going to be "business as usual" in...

This is totally lame. They have just disappeared. You don't just vanish during a kickstarter campaign. WTF?

Here is Obama, changing the way Washington works! Pay close attention folks. Hes gonna clean it up! 23: That And Now a Democrat Is Speaking Out | Video | TheBlaze.com Good to see its no longer business as usual in Washington. This is hope and change in action! Obama is halfway through his...

This proves just how fucking stupid Americans are: CNN poll: More Americans still blame Bush for poor economy than blame Obama Hot Air

Ok I'm here. The party can start!

I want to see something tangible before I donate again. Come back in a year with some serious work behind the project and better understanding of how to sell that idea. I don't want to fund the guys an office, I want to fund a game.

They have stated multiple times theyAREmaking this shit up on the fly. So when you ask specific questions, they honestly don't know the answers yet. You might as well ask what zone it drops in while your at it. THEY DON'T KNOW. Wouldn't you rather him be vague or lie to you and when it turns out...

Austin isn't "buttfuck nowhere". Last I checked it hadat leasttwo small companies you may have heard of. Sony and Blizzard? There is another small company that employs there, Microsoft. So I wouldn't really consider it such a stretch to move there. Their life isn't over if they leave California.

I'll tell ya what.....this conversation that's been going on for the last few pages is 10x more interesting then the KS discussion. I have no fucking clue what everyone is talking about, but its fascinating to read.

Hey you lied. You said that was hard to read!

Whenthis KS fails they are required to re-read this thread a dozen times, then start over.

Yea but the way they calculate a loss is comical. I know, it matters, but its still horseshit."We expect to make $1.6 billion in fiscal year 2013. We only made $1.1 billion therefore we "lost" $.5 billion". They didn't really lose the money, they just didn't meet the estimated amount and they...

I think the team should just make the game they want to make and plan around that rather than limiting the game based on budget. Obviously, you need money to make the game, but I'm uncomfortable with the core aspects of the game being, "we will if we can afford to". CraftingDruids, rangers...

I also wonder how many people are on board, or will stay on board once the KS is over and doesn't get funded. How many are just waiting for KS money to get paid? Once the KS is over, do most of them bail leaving probably Brad and Salim? I question the dedication of the majority of them. And your...

$334k now. Its moving along way to slow but its moving. Just watching the show with Vu. Dungeon looks killer. I know he is hated but Salim seems to be redeeming himself. He's on every damn show working hard to get this project off the ground.

Calling someone elses children "shitspawn"=classy dude. Get back in your moms basement and continue jerking off to porn. She will have your mac&cheese ready soon. P.S. She never said shit about "cybering" with Brad you fag. Cyber is what losers like you do because its the best you can get.

Seriously Convo, I love ya man, but get your head out of Brad's ass for a few seconds and join the rest of us in reality. For a least a few hours. What have you seen that leads you to believe this is going to work without sacrifice? Are you deluded?

Ok. Sorry. Your right. California is a great place to start a new business!!! I can't believe I even thought moving was a good idea. Geesh, they should stay. Why not pay millions of dollars in taxes and cut through all the red tape and deal with all the politics. I'm glad you showed me the error...

Great job on the selective state choices. You seemed to have missed FLORIDA and Texas. Not to shabby ehh? How bout selling your home in San Diego for $900k,, and buying the same home in Texas for $300k? I remember when people in California were selling their homes for $1.1 million and buying the...

Exactly. Which is why its never going to work. If you take no chances in life you will never succeed. If there was an investor that was willing to fund Brad he wouldn't be on kickstarter. The fact he is here tells me he couldn't acquire the funding elsewhere. But you have at team who is...

Yep. I'm sure for every Bon Jovi or Motley Crue there was a thousand bands that failed. But you sure as shit are not going to succeed if you refuse to move from Indiana because your comfortable there.

It cracks me up people are dogging on moving to a state that promotes business, and actually stating they should stay in what is widely recognized as one of the top 5 WORST states to start a business in. Forgive me for once again bringing music into this, but its my business. I've been playing...

Disclaimer: I should have stated this wasn't a direct attack at you. Not at all. I just hate calculating percentages when deciding what makes a good weapon. I think its bad for the genre and bad for gaming in general. Its just my opinion.

This list is everything wrong with MMO's. Jesus christ people, just pick a good weapon that looks cool and kicks ass. The minute this thotbot shit started is when crap started going downhill. When we are whipping out our engineering calculator to determine weapon stats its time to just stop...

I played through POP. Late 2005 before I retired. How many MMO's come in on time and on budget?

Yea but I don't see a $400k push in the last couple days.

Are you serious right now? America's Friendliest Places for Starting a Business - Forbes

8 most business-friendly cities - Austin (1) - CNNMoney

My wifes been screaming that for weeks. I agree. Just set up in someones house. Or use cloud computing. Set up the server in Brad's house and everyone can access it from the comfort of their own homes. But again, I've never run a business. So its just an opinion.

Well said.

Its just smart business. Why pay the state of California when you can pocket that money and reinvest it in the business, and keep the leftover for salaries? Seems common sense. Not like they are working with $30-60 million dollars here. They are on a shoe string budget. They need to do what it...

They should. The Most (And Least) Business Friendly States - Forbes

Or Florida. Pensacola has ridiculously low startup costs for businesses. Anywhere but California.

If by some miracle this project does get off the ground he needs to leave California. Head to a more business friendly state. And San Diego....wow, I can't even imagine what the real estate is going for there and the taxes are insane. Move to Texas.