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Reasonable, well thought out response. Good post and I get your point. Fortunately few rational voices are calling for repealing the 2nd Amendment and whatever is legislated, Americans will still have lots of firearms.

Don't know if that first part was directed towards me, but of course not. You would not want that guy to be driving drunk though, and we have reasonable regulations to minimize it the best we can. Same should be true for guns. Just as banning Toyotas isnt the answer, neither is banning guns...

I think in most cases people just didn't grow up with them or have postive experiences with them (hunting with dad, etc.) People who grew up in familes of resonsible gun owners probably tend to not be afraid of them, and people with no contact with them other than what they see on the teevee are.

Sure and you could do that with hunting rifles and revolvers. Don't get me wrong, as I've said, I'm not a proponent of banning anything (well I suppose I'm ok with civillians not having mortars), I just think 'we shouldn't have gun laws because the Taliban' is a stupid argument. If it ever...

Not full auto AKs, you know the ones that are actually assault rifles? How about mortars? Dshk and RPK machine guns? Or are those just tropes too? IEDs have fuck all to do with this conversation. No one is talking about banning fertilizer, cell phones and whatever the fuck else go in...

So we can buy RPGs, AK-47s and pickup trucks with .50 cal MGs? Sure you aren't thinking of Red Dawn? Speaking of stupid arguments.

Wow.

Real Clear Politics huh? When have law abiding citizens been disarmed in this country? Edit: Reading more, my review of that article is 'Citation Needed'. And "Assault Rifle" legislation wouldn't, which is one of may reasons "Assault Rifle" legislation is stupid.

And we as a society strive to do the best we can to prevent these things from happening while allowing this to remain the 'land of the free'. Gun control should be no different.

Yep. And on the otherside of the coin, so many anti-anti-gun folks seem to think it would be some violation of their constitutional rights and that Joe Stalin is going to rise from the dead to enslave us all if they can't buy AR-15s at 7-11. Both extremes are so afraid that there is no room...

I dont understand this argument. Are you saying that the average shooter could put out the same rate of fire with an enfield and stripper clips as with an AR-15 with 30 round magazines? Isn't the whole reason modern weapons use magazines instead of clips that it is easier to put out a higher...

I would hope that in the 6 months or whatever of range time, training and psych screen that guy would have been denied a certification and reffered to mental health services. From what little I know about that guy, I dont think he would have been capable of completing any sort of legnthy...

Yep, this is how it should be. Semi-autos need to be taken more seriously than they are. They are too deadly (and by deadly I mean efficient) for how easily they can be aquired. It's a bit mind boggling that people can go to walmart to do some grocery shopping, refill thier bi-polar meds...

Pretty much at that age. Mostly so if they find a gun at home or at a friends house they know that it is Very Dangerous. For older kids it could be more indepth. I was actually on a rifle team at my high school in the late 80s. There was a rifle range under the swimming pool. Can't imagine...

It's depressing, but not surpising, to see our politicians go right back for the 'ban scary looking guns' approach. Typical easy fix that dosen't adress the problem. I am just as frustrated with the people shitting up my facebook with 'Guns dont kill people' as I am with the 'Ban Guns'...

Those pieces of shit woud like nothing better to have someone take a swing at one of them and then sue the shit out that person.

It's also annoying as fuck that the news keeps showing the same images of cops in tactical gear looking bad ass with their M4s.

People on AR-15 are saying that the rifle pulled out of the car looked like an SKS or AK, not an AR-15. Sounds like he might have had 2 rifles, one in the school and one outside. I kind of wish I had never listened to the coroner's report. Can't get the image out of my head.

I know wikipedia isn't cool, but this is a pretty informative article about what an assault rifle is, and what the difference between assault rifles and assault weapons is. The AR-15 (or Bushmaster etc) isnt technically an assault rifle because it dosent have a burst or full auto mode, but...

What does the 'AR' in AR-15 stand for?

This got put on my FB wall, made me feel a little better about being a human this morning. "When I was a boy and I would see scary things in the news, my mother would say to me, 'Look for the helpers. You will always find people who are helping.' To this day, especially in times of...

There was a similar post on 4chan about the Oregon mall shooting from way back a couple days ago that was fake, this probably is too. But who knows.

I wouldn't say I only care about things happening here, but this is 'home' and things that hit close to home tend to be more emotionally impactful.

I haven't felt this shaken up about something since 9/11.

ABC confirming 12 dead including children. http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?se...rbs&id=8920181 'at least 12 may be a conservative estimate' Sounds like 2 gunmen, one dead one in custody.

http://www.courant.com/news/breaking...,3969911.story

Yep. $650 a month for me, my wife and baby. Fucking pisses me off everytime I think about it. It still cost us about $7,000 out of pocket to have the baby.

Hah, yeah, good point.

Have you tried sitting down with her and talking to her like a person, not like 'that fucking kid' and asked her what is going on? I'm no professoinal, but it sounds like she is a normal dumb ass teenager who is stubborn as fuck and is pushing back against the way you guys are dealing with her...

Pretty much this. Im kinda suprised by the results of this poll, this place is not quite the hive of scum and villany I thought it was.

Ethically, I'm not sure we have a right other than that we do not trust the leadership of NK with long range nukes, out of self interest. Whether that is right or wrong is debatable. This, however, gives us a de facto right

Firearm Awareness week for schoolkids is a fantastic idea. I dont think the number (48000 from 2006-2010) included suicides, I think it is just homicides. There were 17,000 gun suicide deaths (and 12,000 homicides) in 2007 alone. Pretty similar data for 2009...

See, this sounds reasonable to me, other than the yearly police visits. People here would strongly object to that and the amount of resouces to make it happen would be prohibitive anyway. Maybe something like safety classes and background checks for all gun owners, 6 months at a range for...

Me too. Piers Morgan is all about this and guns tonight. In his opening thing, he put a statistic up that almost 48,000 people were killed by guns in the US from 2006 to 2010. That is fucking shocking. For some perspective, the US had 58,000 KIA in the 10 years of the Vietnam war...

Would be right at home here. (Grats on the movie.)

This Sheriff spokesman is great. The press keeps fishing for a 'military assault weapon' soundbyte and he's not biting. Repoter: So the gunman used a miltary style weapon... Sheriff: We never characterized the weapon as 'military' it was an AR-15 semi automatic rifle. Reporter: So how...

Sheriff on TV now. Shooter was 22yo male, used a stolen AR-15. The fucking piece of shit killed a 45 year old man and 51 year old woman. 15yo girl in hospital. I don't know anything about the woman, but the man was a friend of an aquaitence. He was a husband and father. They are...

I sure the fuck hope not. It's probably orders of magnitude more complex to hit a city across the world with a ICBM than it is to chuck a chunk of metal into orbit. At least I hope it is.

Thanks, never really looked at that website before, pretty interesting. Not my dog, but same sire and dam:http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/dog.html?id=703849