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@Utnayan Tencent are partial owners of the companies that did Elden Ring. Tencent also owns most of Riot and Riot + league of legends is one of the most woke plagued games/companies i've ever seen. Are you going to revoke your praise of that game given these findings or do I need to keep...

It's also stupid as fuck because like multiple people have said multiple times, that's how it is in every single ARPG ever. Try levelling a melee char in PoE and it's absolute dogshit and feels horrible compared to split shot or any other ranged/aoe skill.

Oh ya, that's a dick move for sure. I just don't think he's a retard so much as he's just a douche milking twitch for what twitch wants. Twitch chat is like the most retarded of retards and he's pretty good at giving them what they want (and so are a bunch of other big streamers).

I don't watch much of him but from the bits i've seen it feels more to me like he uses lots of sarcasm and plays into a bunch of stuff just for content and not necessarily because he believes it personally.

Yeah, PoE definitely doesn't have that and never has!

I dunno, all the people in here screaming about how amazing and innovative PoE is sure seem to think a reboot is required for d4 and that reboot better contain 4000 mechanics and features that have never even been dreamt of in the ARPG genre, so why would they not feel the same way about PoE 2?

I guess... Care to elaborate the point so I can reach up and grab it? Only thing I can think of is that your 'point' was everyone who wasn't bashing the game was just a retard lying about enjoying it and having fun but I like to think that they're not a bunch of shills being paid by Blizzard to...

Ya, cause that's definitely not the entire point of video games... (excluding competitive games, which ARPGs are not).

1. I think i'm part of the 0.0001% who does any form of crafting with the currency that isn't deterministic master crafting with guaranteed results but ok. How is using chaos orbs to gamble on an item any different from using gold to gamble items? Because it's not called gold so it's better...

Is FF14 an ARPG these days? Its been quite a while since I played it.

Ya but the skill tree doesn't have 400 nodes that leave you unable to progress past white maps if you don't cookie cutter the shit out of it. Total fail, no choices!

You show me the innovation, you're the one claiming PoE somehow innovates every single league. I've played the game on and off for the past 10+ years and I sure as shit don't see all this magical innovation or "new and different" that it supposedly has.

Lol. Drugs are bad.

How many skills does a game need? PoE, which is apparently the be all end all of amazingness and choice and build diversity, is a game where you use... 1 whole skill, maybe 2 if you're playing one of the few builds that uses 1 skill for single target and 1 for aoe clear. Throw on a movement...

And even then PoE doesn't have all that "crazy shit" he wants. Just another example of someone who doesn't actually play ARPGs coming in to say this game is going to suck.

Agreed the first was the best. I liked the 2nd quite a bit, too. Third was kind of disappointing although I think my main problem with it was how hard they forced Halle Berry into it along with some terrible cgi. Kind of want to see this in the theatres but holy hell I just looked at prices...

Flashbacks of chasing fallen around in D2 as they run 20 miles every time 1 dies but ocd means you have to kill them all regardless of how annoying it is.

Did you play Titan Quest or Grim Dawn?

Glad i'm not the only one. Every idol that drops for my ice sorc is lightning or fire damage and every wand/staff/sceptor is minion damage and/or necrotic damage.

"Handful of builds per class" so lets say there are 2 or 3 builds per class and 5 classes. That's 10-15 "viable builds". You think there are significantly more than (or even as many as) 10-15 viable builds per league in PoE? Shit, for a long time there were significantly less than 10 viable...

Nice tits.

Melee is always ass in any arpg until endgame. Always.

I didn't buy myself KFC and I wanted to see how the game looked, so my options were limited to this. I'm not a fan of watching streams in general, though.

Pulled up steelmage stream this morning to see a bit more of the game. He watched a bunch of videos of people dying to Butcher and said he wanted to fight him. Ran into him a couple minutes later and steamrolled him, lol.

So... it will die because it's the same as every arpg?

Inventory management is anti-fun in ARPG loot games. "Hey, here's a bunch of cool items, but you can only carry 4 of them if they're bows/2handers of all varieties or you can carry 10x as much if you pick up only the smaller items so you can choose to either get to look at a bunch of items...

I don't remember anyone saying D3 felt "bland" or anything. The only major complaints I remember about D3 was how much they fucked the game over in order to push their RMAH shit by gimping drops so much that you had to do stupid shit like tyrael death roll to try and progress through Hell...

Watching Asmons stream for a few minutes, much like I said after the video the other week the graphics and stuff just don't really do it for me. That said, graphics and stuff don't mean a whole heck of a lot to me and they're not bad enough to turn me off of the game so i'll probably end up...

Ah ok, I don't have any issues yet with lots of clicking so that's nice to hear. 99.9% of the uniques in PoE are worthless vendor trash and always have been, especially ones you find early...

So i'm getting mixed opinions from the thread. Is this Diablo 3+ or is this DiabLost Ark? Little bit of both? I'd probably prefer diablo3+ to diablost ark, altho if it actually is a controller game and sucks on kbm then I probably won't buy it after all. I play pc, if I wanted to use a gd...

Revolutionary itemization?

Well i'm at about a 1/10 on enjoyment in the late game. Tried the lvl 75 mono lagon a bit ago, 2nd half got way too chaotic and I just ended up getting chain stunned to death once I got hit once (made it a while before something hit me but once I got hit I just couldn't move til I got hit 4...

Oh god, why did I try to watch that video. *click**click**click**click**click* word *click**click**click**click**click**click* word *click**click**click**click* word.

Bullet hell games aren't new... what? I'd guess that almost nobody even knew what PoE was until well after D3 and Reaper of Souls had many years under their belts and there hasn't been a single ARPG in between to compete with PoE that I know of, other than Grim Dawn which I don't even really...

Don't forget the fact that it's 11 years later and video games are exponentially more popular... I'll never understand it.

The promise of another decade of gifs to worf.

Nope, never watched a game in my life. That must be why i'm so dumb as to think Aaron Rodgers was not the best quarterback that has ever and will ever play the game, by such a large margin that no other quarterback should ever even be considered to be even 2 tiers below him on the scale of...

Did McFatty really waste his career or was it more that he's just always been an overhyped turd who everyone desperately wanted to use just to try and say Brady wasn't the best?