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Guys this isn't politics. I'm actually willing to entertain the possibility that I might be wrong here.

I just think he's OP in a way that either makes challenges impossible to take seriously or cheesy when the writer godhammers them into the narrative. Also, as a character I think he's really boring (there might be some meat in exploring the psychological ramifications of effectively being a...

It ends for the dead.

Seriously have you guys not considered the ramifications of invading a nuclear power before? If they can't nuke us and they can't beat us, there's absolutely no reason they wouldn't nuke themselves. Do you think the Pentagon doesn't have similar contingency plans to deal with a...

It's irrational to start a war with the U.S. because that would drastically lower their life expectancy. Once they're already in the position of imminent death, it's perfectly rational for them to deny us the spoils of victory. This is basic game theory.

lol What the hell makes you think that?

Superman is a bad superhero and they should stop making shit based on him.

24,000,000 corpses made by the North Korean military brass nuking their own country as a last act of scorched earth spite would absolutely not be a better outcome.

Here's a thought: why don't we lift the sanctions and let western goods and culture trickle in and see if they can scrabble together the material means of revolution? That way, even when things end up shitty, it won't be because we used some horrible humanitarian pretext to justify pillage...

I'm sure that'll work out just great. Just like always.

Because we don't give a shit about the people who are actually hurt by our policies?

Oh sorry, what I meant was THEY BAD WE GOOD. Am I doing it right?

We could end the sanctions.

I mean that's total nonsense. That might be what we said but it's not at all what we would or did do. The only reason Vietnam wasn't one country from the start was that, in spite of the overwhelming popularity of the communist movement, the allied powers decided France deserved a colony...

If "a threat someday" is a justifiable reason for an attack than North Korea is justified in attacking us right now. Since we know that North Korea is not justified in attacking us now, we have to accept that our premise is false.

If you need evidence todisprove every "theory" (you mean conjecture) you're going to leave yourself open to all kinds of nonsense.

What a load of bullshit. You know that self-defense is the justification you're attempting here but you're trying to deflect any need to actually demonstrate that that's what's occurring (protip: you can't because the side that attacks first isn't exercising self-defense). As an aside, the war...

It is not the way that the world works that those things are justifiable. Many unjustifiable things happen all the time. We are having a conversation about what things we want have happen in the future. If you don't want people to say "you're a horrible sack of shit and I'm never going to...

You're not interested in having a conversation about that hypothetical because it denies you the ability to ascribe a sense of danger and otherness to the would-be victim of aggression and without that your entire risible line of thought collapses.

Yeah, separately. That's not what I'm talking about. You're starting your analysis way after I do. Right. Now imagine being a Korean in the late 1940's with that knowledge. My point isn't whether or not it would have succeeded if put to a vote. My point is that it was never going to get to...

That's what she said!

If the justification for "us" attacking "them" is that "they" pose a threat to "us", I'm not sure that I'm the one oversimplifying things.

No they're not. Here's where you explain why you think they are and where I tell you why you're wrong.

He already said he doesn't care about their perspective.

I like how you're too thick to grasp the relevance and how you play RIGHT into their satire by acting like everyone that's hostile to us is "crazy." You're a fucking moron.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/ira...clear-w,27325/

It's a really fucking basic analogy. I'm posing a hypothetical where they (rather than we) have overwhelming military power. That puts them in our (current) position and us in their (current) position. It's a trick to make you put yourself in their shoes even though you don't have any principles.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/ira...clear-w,27325/

You don't give a shit about what? And no it isn't. You're just terminally incapable of viewing things from someone else's perspective.

We represent a serious threat tothem. Would that be a justification of their attack? If they found some buried Martian artifact that allowed them to call down an ancient unstoppable inter-planetary war machine how much comfort would you derive from the fact that we had been a threat to them or...

Yeah there's a reason the children of Chinese immigrants to America end up much taller than their parents. We have nutrients here.

Heh. So this goes back to my first post on like the second page:

What's the weather like in the peanut gallery? Also, the word you're looking for is "there."

Sorry. That was a response to all one post.

I'll live.

If we had had the north and south get together and vote on what sort of society they were going to have (without an implict U.S. threat to cripple them if they didn't choose the way we wanted) that would have been self-determination for a single country. Moreover, if the US had just said "Meh...

That sounds pretty explicitly like they didn't have a right to self-determination to me. Yeah cause pretty soon the whole world would have fallen like dominoes...dun dun DUNNNNNNN. What kind of justification is that? "Well our actions were terrible, but what do you expect?" Again, this just...

Japan is doing fine because they capitulated to our demands. That has nothing to do with justice. That has to do with power.

I think the US stance towards Korea (which was basically that they didn't have a right to self-determination) starting even prior to 1950 ensured no other possibilities for their political system. It completely validated the right-wing hardliners and lent legitimacy to the political philosophy...

Yes that's true. Desperationisusually the means by which the drive for justice is suppressed.