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Yea, playing since open beta just rolling on ranked for now. Mainly using a rogue deck but probably going to branch out to druid. Currently lvl 19.

PoP, the expansion that basically trivialized travel in EQ and put druids and wizards out of the porting business.

BECUZ THAT'S NOT HOW EQ DID IT.................

3 doesn't really feel unique enough though. At least it didn't with FFXIV. I agree that they probably have their hands tied with that where it concerns money. I think folks need to accept the harsh reality that certain things are going to get sacrificed for playability especially when it...

See my post earlier on trying to appease the hardcore EQ vet crowd.

Have they even said there will be racial divide in this game like EQ? If you only have 4-5 races, which I assume would be the case due to the budget, what's the point?

This is probably going to be one of the casualties of a small budget. Your also thinking in terms of EQ lore. Whose to say that factions are based on alignment instead of race? Meaning if there are 3 or 4 'sides', you only need 3 or 4 cities.

I've seen tons of MMO's and I'm sure you have as well where the devs blow smoke up your ass and the reality is it's nothing like what they say. In fact, from the guy that's designing this game should be exhibit A when it comes to that. This stuff is going to get criticized, this is what I...

What I meant is EQN has money behind it. They have freedom to do as they choose. That's a whole lot different then when you don't have money behind it (Pantheon) and you're presenting the 'vision' in a certain way. You're backers are backing the project based on what your saying now.

EQN is not a kickstarter project?

I think they are figuring out you need more than just ideas to get a KS rolling. You need at least some sort of prototype. If this KS gets funded, it'll be off blind fanboyism.

Sounds like the EQ2 cleric.

I'm curious to know is with how these classes have sub classes, how is that going to work with a stretch goal. If bard stretch goal is met, then they need to come up with two sub classes?

Basically sounds like FFXIV but perhaps more than just the weapon.

Classic EQ is still Everquest, that's why.

I agree with you and that's why I think this is doomed to fail (at least in the eyes of old school EQ vets), because Brad himself set it up to 'be a lot like EQ'. What that does is invite all sorts of comparisons and if it doesn't live up to it (almost impossible to do), then let the bitching...

I just think that there isn't any way to recreate that 'feel' that EQ had, even if you basically do a copy/paste of the same stuff. I can see people playing for a few months and then like everything else will move on to something else. At that point it becomes just another small MMO in a sea...

Or this one.

None of this crap really matters in the long run. It was a better class update but that's not saying much compared to what came before. Still no details on how the class plays, no details on the 'sub' classes, no details on when you would get to pick those classes, no details at all. And...

I think it's funny how even if they do a better class update, you can still find things (dual sheild) that are retarded. It's just some crazy idea, it's not like they know how the mechanics of it are even going to work (if at all).

LOL, yea it does look a little ridiculous. I was thinking more you would have one shield on the hand, the other on the back. Or the 2nd shield wouldn't be a sheild per say but something similar. Either way, the class would probably use magic for dps (battlemage)?

It's a better class update than what was there before, I'll give them that. Let's see what kind of bump (if any) it gets today.

That's still a lot of assumptions. Who's to say everyone who has signed up on the forums: a) still plays P99 b) want an EQ clone that's not Everquest c) still want that type of game anyway (perhaps moved on to other games) d) have faith that Brad will deliver after the Vanguard debacle.

Lith has a pretty good post about this last night. Basically if this game was presented as trying to move the genre foward, bring the best elements of EQ and vanilla WoW, I think the interest would go through the roof. But he's appealing to the EQ old school crowd only because he probably...

What they are putting out now barely qualifies as info. It's not like they are super descriptive.

I think the dumbest decision so far (and there has been a number of them) is spreading out these class reveals over the course of 3 weeks. You're trying to hype up these class reveals but then you reveal them and there isn't much to the descriptions. If you are going to have something called...

This is the more relevant graph.

Most of that was pretty vague although there were a lot of crafting questions. I think it's a mistake if it launches without some sort of crafting component. I'm not that into it but you have to figure at least a third of who wants to play this will be.

Let's be fair though, although P99 has a decent amount of players, that's not enough to make a full scale MMO profitable. I also think the crowd that plays EQ today is not the same type of player that played in 1999. Even then, that game is not profitable enough to be a sub game, it's FTP...

It still has a shot but it's a pretty long shot. I think a vast majority of those who would be interested in this type of game have already seen the KS at this point and made up their mind. Yes those that pulled their pledges would put them back but that's not going to help them get to goal...

I agree with you, especially the last paragraph. The sad part is I think if Brad pitched this game like you just did, I'd think he'd have a ton more interest despite how horrible the ks has gone.

You know what both of those have in common? They are both based off an existing (and very popular) IP. I disagree about WoW vanilla being a eq clone, at least I never thought that when I started playing it.

All I know is every game that's tried to directly copy something (mostly WoW clones) have failed in some way, shape or form. I'm not sure why anyone thinks an EQ clone would be that much different. Today has been a pretty bad day as far as funding goes. Only about 3300 and 26 backers.

I agree the fact if the matter is this game is never going to be able to fully replicate the feel that EQ had.

Tell me this, if everyone thought vanilla wow was great when the EQ migration happened, why isn't anyone clamouring for a remake of vanilla wow instead if EQ?

After reading that update, I'm disappointed the last line didn't say... You're in our world now!

And it shows. The KS has literally hardly moved today. About 3k so far and 19 backers.

Let's just put it like this then. Nothing they have put out, whether it be the lore, classes, screenshots, map of the dungeon, etc., gives me any indication this is a game that's going to be very much like Everquest. You could say this game is going to be a hard core version of Rift or WoW or...

Anyone can say they are going to create an old school MMO in the same vein as EQ. Saying and doing are two different things though. And there is nothing on the 'doing' part that gives any indication that they would be successful in what they are saying.

It wasn't a night shot at all, but that needed to be clarified in the comments thread since it was titled as such.