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Probably some crazy stretch goal like 4.5 million. I'd worry about them getting their office chairs and servers first, which I guess is what the 800k will cover (if it does).

I think some of it is desperation. They see how this is trending, both in money and backers. They need to do something to get more per day, this project can't even clear 10k in a day. They are going to throw the kitchen sink at it even it means handing out what I would deem 'pay to win'...

Well at least the add-on's are getting them some money. 8K today so far which is better than the last 3-4 days. It is the add-on's as only 23 new backers added.

We got about 3 inches in the Raleigh, NC area, went through the same exact shit that Atlanta went through back in 2005. It was the same exact scenario too, everyone goes to school and work and then it starts snowing and the freakout happens. Schools and business let out early, nobody knows how...

I'm thinking more of the end game here. Of how this game is constantly described (small, targeted at a small niche, not as many features) I have to wonder if I'd like the game at that point. At a certain point, if certain things are 'missing', it's starts getting to the point where it doesn't...

Well I tried to get back into P99 and realized I didn't want to go 'that' slow with leveling. Probably make a character on test tonight. We'll see how long nostalgia lasts this go around. Since I'm going to be starting brand new (as in no chars to testcopy from), what the easiest way to get...

I love this thread. Every day it's like a roller coaster but only when it concerns the fanboys. They go from excited to depressed to angry then back to excited and we start the cycle again. I get why they put the addon's. It's because of the reality of the situation. They realize that...

Not if the KS doesn't fund. That's my point, if he needs to come up with his own money to cover it, why didn't he use that money to put a better product out there for the KS. I guarantee you it would be doing much better than it's doing now. He has said on countless occassions that the KS is...

From the AMA: [-]AraduneMithara[S] 13 points 7 minutes ago treestick: While we're making a challenging game, but you won't need to grind or camp or do a dungeon for hours on end. Most of Pantheon is designed to be played in 1-2 hour increments.

My follow up question to that is if they have enough to cover any gap if the LS doesn't reach goal (200k, 400k whatever), why wasn't that money used towards perhaps a prototype or towards some sort of development to show?

What if you don't get to goal? What if on the last day you are still at least 200k short? Are you (and the other partners) going to cover the rest but yet still going with the notion that there is enough interest (despite that you had to cover the remaining 200k? Do you believe as of today...

How can you be constructive if what's not there. Take for example the class descriptions. How can you be constructive over basically two paragraphs? All that's going on is ideas being thrown out there. Even these ideas are not going into a whole lot of detail. Your lucky we are even here to...

I think I want to see a little more. 'Sounds like' vs. 'what the finished product will be' are usually not one and the same, if we go by every single release since EQ. I'm well past the point of devs talking up their game and then it turns out to be not exactly as advertised.

Maybe, just maybe all the concept art they are using wasn't art that was specifically made for Pantheon. I don't think they have any 'work' that reflects the game itself. Also in with the obligatory 'this can turn it around for Pantheon'.

I could see why that one would work though, not the least of which it appeals to a bigger pool of players (like the whole island of Japan).

Finally got this loaded up. Since it's been forever since I played, anyone got a good beginner guide for starting in GFay?

Does anyone have an example of a KS that funded successfully where it started from 0 (meaning there was no initial startup money, no tech demo, etc) to reach the kind of money they are asking for Pantheon? Pathfinder isn't a good comparison, wasn't there already funds in place and a tech demo...

You know this project is dead when this thread can't move a page in 2 hours. Another dead funding day.

I don't think you're going to get that. That's another thing that's ultimately going to be an issue, the lore. People identify with Everquest partly due to the lore/races/classes. The further you move away from that, the further the link. I had brought up that this game may be based on EQ...

I have a hard time believing they are going to put in pay-to-win stuff (like stat items) at higher tiers. At least that's how I would think of some of the things listed above. I think what's killing them is something they can't fix, the timeline. The fact that this game isat least3 years...

The pumping is what made my wife eventually stop. It just got to be too much especially once she started going back to work.

Yea but there is actually a game there. He's got in-game screenshots, concept art of characters, etc. Plus he's got enough money to put into it to startup, he didn't have to go this route that Brad and co. are taking.

That was still seven year ago though. Although there more choices in what to play, it wasn't how it is now. Plus what about the fact that a lot of players have simply moved on. You can't use stuff like characters created on a progression server on live to gauge interest. It's one thing to...

You're missing the point. With almost 2k backers (which is small to begin with) you only have 189 that bought into the 250 tier. That's really pathetic for a tier that's giving you a $1 sub fee. If people are not going to buy into a tier that gives them a sub based MMO for basically free...

Obviously it's more than just the tiers though. You can hand out all sorts of crap but if people don't buy into what your selling (and lets face it, not enough are), then it doesn't really matter. It still just comes down to if people really believe Brad can make this kind of game again...

Yea I'm not sure the lower tiers help them. As it stands now they are not getting a flood of backers. This thinking goes with an assumption that people are on the fence because the tiers are too high but if that was the case it wouldn't had taken 12 days to sell out of the 45 alpha slots. I...

What's hilarious is twitch chat and KS comments make this sound like it's gold. I understand having blind optimism but holy shit.

Which isn't going to happen. The fact that they can't even get morebackersto watch this thing says a lot. Even if they got 15k a day from here to the end, they still need a surge of at least 150,000 to reach goal.

The twitch chat is going apeshit over this slideshow, like it's the greatest dungeon they ever saw.

He basically just admitted he's playing around, there isn't any sort of design set up yet.

Only 214 watching the stream. This is basically a Unity demo.

I think the first problem to this analogy is you are equating Vanguard to a 2013 Camero. Second, it's more appropriate to say the car was so broken down by the time you bought it that you had to tow it to your house instead of drive it. As to why you bought this broke down piece of shit to...

So far the most annoying thing in this game is swapping out cards in the beginning only to get re-dealt that same exact card (1 copy) on the opening draw. Is there any point to the golden cards you get after lvl 10?

Vanguard was dead in the water the day SoE took over and Sigil burned to the ground. It's naive to think otherwise. And there are successful MMO's targeted toward younger kids: Wizard101 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia They need at least 15k a day and that's even assuming they are...

Nabi is pretty neat, although she mainly only uses it on car rides. My daughter plays a lot of music (the stuff that came with it) on it, which I really didn't think was going to be the main thing she used it for (figured games).

Thanks, that other download was taking forever. Now that all the alpha slots are gone, it'll be interesting to see if people buy into the high tiers now. That's pretty much the only way this is going to get funded. Out of the 1872 backers, over 1100 backed the 45 or under tier.

Same with me. If a group gets together I may join in. No idea where the discs are though.

I agree that the piling on Brad is getting old but lets face facts here. This is entire project is based off hope and faith because it's not like they have any working prototype or something tangible that says 'here is what we are working on'. Then it comes to do you have hope and faith that...

What kind of server economy is this going to have if it doesn't have any sort of crafting element? Especially if stuff that's valuable (quest items) isn't tradeble.

Here is how you know they have a really big uphill climb. To any backer/supporter, yesterday was a very good day in terms of updates/money/backers (most backers in over a week). Yet it still didn't even clear 14k for the day. I thought in the beginning this needed at least 15k a day but that...