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Well you're right, planning it so you do it while you're still getting xp is good when you're dealing with already existing games. But we're talking about new games here so they can put a bit more thought into their content layout. I mean in my wish MMO the player power curve would be flat...

In 1999 internet gaming was niche, now its mainstream. Anything mainstream is exploited to max profits. Instancing it is cheaper design-wise. I dunno, 3 months ago it was just as clear that this is WoW+housing. What did you see in it back then that has changed?

Blizzard taking their lore from other sources instead of making it up isnt news, Itzena. It's a good method too, because look what happened to the warcraft lore once Metzen started to actually make shit up himself instead of taking it from Warhammer and so on. Also, Kerafyrm blowing up the world...

I see the difference, but I the means are the same. Kill shit, take their stuff and either equip it outright or trade/smith/quest it into something you equip. As long as there's enough variety in the kill shit part of the equation things are fine imo. Camping stormfeather or quillmane, no...

I wish they would redo the borderlands tbh, make 3 different maps of them. They rotate weekly anyway. Or if they insist on mirrors at least make them different themes, one snow, one autumn, one tropical. I'd love of each servers own borderlands were persistant and had far more options for...

My comment about being worth the box was just a response to Qwerty calling it wasted money. As far as grindy goes, I wouldnt call GW2 that. But I doubt there is much agreement on what is a grind from an objective point of view, because things start being that grind when you arent actually...

I disagree with qwerty here, GW2 is definitely worth the box price even though it has some flaws. It does alot of things right and even has some features and bits I would love to see in EQN (however unlikely that is). Like I said above I agree that it is not P2W - but its not all fine with it...

I think dungeons are fun if you're playing with people that want to play together mainly, and not finish asap. But I see dungeons in other games the same so /shrug. I agree that the mini dungeons out in the world are the best content in the game though, wish they added more of that regularly and...

I wouldnt call GW2 P2W in the way that stats are shop-only, not at all even. But they wanted their endgame to be cosmetics-driven and have turned to adding the majority of cosmetics through the cash shop with only a token amount available through play. It doesnt line up with their pre-release...

Free transfers for months was killing wvw I think. They wanted servers to develop rivalries and instead they trained everyone how to bandwaggon. Would have been nicer with more persistance too, not weekly resets or bi-weekly like now. I think the whole wvw setup could do with a revamp.

Maybe you have some insider info about the contracts Carbine and Arenanet have with NCsoft, but the TLDR from UT right here can be applied to GW2 almost to the letter. And they also seemed in control of their plans before release. Now maybe the Arenanet team just went full retard after releasing...

That expectation might be the issue. I played about half of those, but at most one playthrough and only one of the often available slightly different endings. Games like that are fun while they're novel but not build to last imo, popcorn entertainment just like modern movies. I buy them if I...

That time frame sounds more like "I quit 3-4 months ago" and not "still working on whatever"... Anyway I like most of their mid-year announcement. Looking back what they accomplished with the first half of the year I am VERY doubtful they can do more then lip service though. I'm in wait and...

Pretty much the reason for half my posts here as well - having faith in SOE remaking EQ in a way that does not make HEAVY concessions to the changes that swept the whole genre (imo the worse) is just setting your up for a rude awakening. Rather then clinging to that hope, I do hope they can...

I dunno, obviously the questing changed how people played, but I dont think the preference to solo vs dungeons has changed much. I would agree with vanilla WoW being very EQish. The path of least resistance in late kunark and certainly from velious on led through various outdoor zones for many...

Sounds great, I entirely agree with that. I would actually reverse the stain WoW put on the word 'quest' and include some menial repeatable tasks where it makes sense (bounties on orc scalps and the like). Those tasks wold be persistant/repeatable, maybe not always available if the game has some...

I'm hitting a "meh" phase with GW2, pondering wether I should go with this or NWO for a week or so. Did they add anything interesting after "the expansion" (/snicker) or are the patch notes above the first noteworthy changes since?

Really the best thing you can take away from the new posts in this thread is to give borderlands 2 a try instead of throwing money at this.

You'll take your Elder Game and like it. Grim you're right that there are alot of people needlessly shitting over any concept that might be remind them of EQ1, but at the same time you have Qwerty and co. crusading against everyone that directs critic (or more often hyperbole) at them or...

I like alot of that, sounds pretty close to EVE/UO in many regards. It also radically throws away most things WoW and EQ brought to the genre. Given what little hints there are and that some are even contradicted later, this is still grasping at straws. Much more like then the EQ1'13 wishlist...

That's a reasonable opinion about the state of GW2, cant really provide facts that counter it. However as someone that still does play, my impression is quite the opposite. The whole item treadmill outcry was way back in november, and wether it kept more of the +gooder players then it cost them...

If a studio wants to put alot effort into something like this it could work. Especially if they go with a simpler, less scripted encounter design for most of the dungeons. As a stupid example, in addition to whatever content you design for your new game, have a bunch of interns redo all dungeons...

The thing is back then there was no industry based around 3rd party sales. It was individuals selling stuff they camped or their characters, at worst their dropable raid loot or raidgeared chars. Then people started to realize theres money to be had and now, a decade later, you have a whole...

It'll be a thousand times worse because everything will be camped by people striving to make RL money through it commercially. Back in EQ most sales in the early time before the proliferation of RMT/item selling companies at least were from some guy that camped it himself for some beer money...

Those people are right with their claim. Most MMO players these days seek instant gratification. Doesnt mean every game has to cater to them, and hopefully EQN wont. That sounds fine with me, as long as that iksar has to work his ass off to be accepted as a defender of qeynos. The Drizzt people...

If they have dorfs, I'll make a dorf, melee of some kind. And if they have enchanters I'll make an enchanter. Beyond that I have no plans or expectations, and I hope that race/deity are as important choices as class and that you cannot change either afterwards (unlikely I know, but this whole...

I'm not sure how relevant all our discussion of EQ1 vs VG vs WoW gameplay really is to EQN. It's interesting anyway, but there's been literally nothing solid said about game mechanics. But pointing out people that post here havent actually played EQ1 is only relevant if you expect/wish for a...

I think GW2 tried too much to remove tanking and healing as a role. Or rather, failed to truly allow their new trinity of dps, support and control to shine. The bane of PVP* means there are little actual control abilities, and alot of support is easily slotted in even the most offensive build...

I played EQ for years and would like the design pendulum to swing back in that direction. But what you've been spouting on the last few pages is over the top exaggerated to the point of becoming comical. Either we played different EQs or you are talking about killing an orc pawn at level 25 (not...

It's worth repeating that the GW2 way of giving each weapon different skills to work with is a really good idea. It adds depth to classes and AAs (if your game has them) without being power creep, because obvious only the spider-people get to use more then two weapons at once. It also allows the...

Meh, sounds exaggerated. Hard to believe that what you describe was your actual experience in 2004. I guess that the case for most posts here including mine, but you overdo it.

Most of his flowchart applies to other games too, like the decision about which content to attempt with the group, he just paints it as unique to EQ. I'm so on board with that. Dont forget the dorfs though. I'd love to have an open faction system where you can actually kill npcs in your hometown...

I get what you're saying, but again I dont think the concept of meditating throughout a whole fight has a place in games in 2013. Different opinions are ok though, I'm not saying go to hell. That's also not the same as everything being DDR everywhere, all the time. There's a middle ground where...

For the group that wants resource management instead of DDR during combat, the model TOR uses (+ some tweaks) is ok though. Its only the audience that expects striking conversation that demands mandatory out of combat breaks. I'll use that time to chat alright - with my guild usually, maybe...

I should probably have elaborated that more, seems like you are assuming the WoW out-of-combat model. I was thinking of something more restrictive, kinda like agression timers in EVE. As a simple exampe lets go with getting agro while running by stuff gets you 2 minutes "in combat" state where...

I found the blind effect during that Aiming clip interesting, if it really was one.

While I am ok with a little downtime, removing it does not automatically remove resource management. You can make your game with strict "in-combat" flags that remove the high regen you would enjoy out of combat. I'm not a big fan of the concept, just pointing out there are alternatives to DDR...

I dont know about the current state of UO but you can experience gameplay like that in EVE, pretty much from the start even.

It's part of any game I can think of, really. Solo and group play can co-exist just fine if your design accounts for both at all levels of play. Edit: Soloing, was adressing Bellringer

Graphics are kinda important to me, I wouldnt want to play under EQ1 conditions in 2013. that said I'm fine with a WoW style as long as it is consistent, hiding shoulders would've removed my only complaint about WoW style graphics. Given the choice I do find the more realistic but with a certain...