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how should zimmerman have acted different once he was confronted by trayvon? assuming trayvon threw the first punch according to what little evidence we have. what should have changed in zimmermans decision making when there is no hindsight?

What was the point, what was the reason, what was the motivation to say that. what is the thing you think saying that will do, or imply or give evidence to support. this is where I can't get past, what are you trying to say.

Hindsight, broken nose just proves severity of beating, plenty of people have died while being in a fight that broke their nose just as plenty of people have survived a nose being broken. you are applying hindsight, literally just hindsight, think of it like a decision tree based on future...

are you sure his nose was broken are you sure he just doesn't have big nostrils?

well tanoomba is saying that both parties "probably" would have lived, so he's saying zimmerman should have just sat there and took it because then nobody would have died and no angels would have wept. I get what your saying the most likely outcome in your mind is bother parties walk off with...

Alright but what does that change? what does that influence even if we take that as being true, it changes nothing. it doesn't excuse trayvon"s behavoir and it doesn't block zimmermans justification from defending himself with lethal force.

all you have to do is say the gun may not have saved his life which is true but pedantic, the factual nature of your statement rustles everyones jimmies because it violates logic and that's very important in the whole "self defense" nature of the case. There's very logical reasons why only the...

You just can't say zimmerman couldn't have been permantly wounded or even killed though, and I gave the reason why a person could be justified in killing even when he didn't have "mortal wounds" or whatever.

The potential existed, THE POTENTIAL, potential damage. If a bull is charging at you and you shoot it before it gores you, you prevented the potential danger of being gored. but yes it does exist you may be able to dodge the goring, but nobody in their right fucking mind should hastle you for...

you're directly arguing against this point because your saying factually he wouldn't have been injured which means you know exactly how the future will unfold which is false. yes the gun MAY have saved his life it is logical to think this way.

I stopped reading where I finished quoting because this is where the argument begins and ends. It's not an emphatic assumption and it doesn't need to be, the possibility existed and that possibility is what allowed his rights to be asserted. nobody can predict the exact future but we can say it...

we'll never know what that doctors opinion was about future damage because the judge upheld an objection. Defense, medical examiner spar over Zimmerman's injuries http://video.foxnews.com/v/252275856...mans-injuries/ the lacerations on the back of zimmermans by the evidence presented it...

the irs was doing literally what nixon got in trouble for, talk about moving the goal posts.

When you build a cult of personality that's how you can throw that weight around. There's a reason obama won "best marketing campaign of the year award", think about that he won an award from professional manipulators about being the biggest professional manipulator of that year...

McCain backs Obama's call for 'stand your ground' review http://news.yahoo.com/mccain-backs-o...153105503.html This is a masterpiece of political rhetoric when I read it actually. Obama: "And for those who resist that idea-that we should think about something like these 'stand your...

Arguing with tanoomba is like arguing with a jesus freak everytime you point out the flaws and the overall pattern they fit into they retreat into whatever pocket of hazy darkness that the light of truth and reality hasn't been shown yet.

The media profits from fanning the flames of racism, look how much content was generated in this thread in a short time, draegan can take this traffic and use that to sell advertising exactly like it works on tv, the more people watching the more advertising is sold. Which is exactly what...

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...n-verdict?lite From one point of view you can say on trayvons foundation they are mining more people to speak out and put pressure on stand your ground under the guise of "prayer circles" http://trayvonmartinfoundation.org/circle-of-prayer/ the...

No I blame the media, Especially mass media, these people are educated elites and they have a civic duty as the 4th estate, they have a moral and civic duty.

If you ask authority this is literally what they tell you to do.

http://trayvonmartinfoundation.org/ http://trayvonmartinfoundation.org/shop/ Remember that time you where all emotional? please let me remind you so you can continue being emotional. So the foundation is used to provide revenues for previously existing funds, there is a collapsable list...

I think zimmerman profiled trayvon non-racially he is biased against certain clothing and looking out of place. What Do Zimmerman's Calls to Police Show About His View of Black Men? http://www.thefacultylounge.org/2013...lack-men-.html Zimmerman called about everything, this isn't the...

Lately, not before these last 6 months when it has been made exceedingly obvious.

The founders of the constitution said the exact opposite thing, just because it eventually evolved as an encroaching practice does not mean it's just.

what the fuck do you think the ipad uses to store information? flash memory. Storage capacity 16, 32, 64, or 128 GB flash memory http://www.slashgear.com/toshiba-128...one-4-1790221/ The modules measure a scant 17 x 22 x 1.4 mm When your data's in the cloud, is it still your data...

1:55 Muliculturism is used to perpetuate a caste system. "for example, if the multiculutralists tell the schools that the schools shouldn't teach black students standard english learning standard english has a huge effect on a persons ability to get a job and their social mobility."

This is a symptom of Federal expansion of power "Possible Federal Prosecution of George Zimmerman, and the "Dual Sovereignty" Exception to the Double Jeopardy Clause" http://www.volokh.com/2013/07/18/pos...opardy-clause/ The constitutional and practical underpinnings of the doctrine...

National action Network http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/07/...ally-saturday/ "They need to change the laws that we all know need changing, because they don't work for us." Fulton said." So what laws do the "social engineers" think need changing, this should be a hoot. National...

I have a problem using the ipad to represent storage capacity The Ipad uses many different parts besides memory storage The flash memory is just ONE of the 2 toshiba chips on this board that represents a section of the entire device Not only that but memory is still getting...

This is the foundation they setup http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-07-2...dation/4833310

I can't wait until i can grab things from across the room like i'm a Jedi http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0531103910.htm Artificial Magnetic Monopoles Discovered May 31, 2013 - A team of researchers from Cologne, Munich and Dresden have managed to create artificial magnetic...

yeah they had wild nun orgies, decided they didn't need priests to absolve them and could talk directly to god, where free men to cathols for a while, broke the catholic spell on northern Europe. Protestantism is > catholicism That's why I cringe every time someone says "america was founded...

9/9 making images I can play around with in my head is one of my strong suits, find each cubes keystone by looking for a pattern about ~3 squares long then work from there. I made 6 work by finding a pattern 2 arrows pointing in the same direction pointing at a box, 6 didn't stand out as...

I don't think your ideology is functionally stable because it assumes the system can't become corrupt to the point where it represses peaceful revolution.

what if the world isn't ideal though, because it never really will be is my point, what's the release valve mechanism for a corrupt system in this ideology?

So you place 0 worry about a system being corrupt and the only way to change that system like perpetual secrecy oaths is to break that oath? in the end law is man made and in it's worst can have all the worst aspects of man.

Not really when you realize the circular logic you just employed, people got upset because of previous bias not because of rational thinking, you are excusing irrational behavior in a circular fashion, until we grow up as a society it will remain in this perpetual state because of race baiters...

I dunno that's the whole point I guess. this is in, "is pluto a planet" territory.