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Again, you don't know what you are talking about. It takes more than just drilling anything. It is like those idiots that show videos online about how to convert ar-15s to full auto, etc. The shit they are doing is essentially making the gun slamfire over and over again, which is very dangerous.

They aren't constructing guns in the US that can be converted this easily. You don't know what you are talking about.

They have never been used in a crime, they leave a clear paper trail and are quite a bit of expense. Yet this is something you think needs to be done. Yet you claim to be a moderate on the issue lol.

Let me guess, you think lots of guns are converted this easily right? Your lack of knowledge of anything related to this issue pains my brain.

This is a reasonable speed Go to 25:50 in. 18 rounds in less than 4 seconds on target.

Just because a law doesn't forbid something, doesn't make it a loophole. The NFA trust is perfectly fine and doesn't contribute to crime. It's a legal construct to purchase regulated items. It is in no way a loophole. Anyway, why not 18?

I care. Again, you want to add new laws, show some evidence that it would have a positive effect on crime. Jesus you are bad at this.

How many crimes have been committed by people with weapons obtained by NFA trusts?

Goo 'Murica

You must really hate Araysar. Duppin has been shitting up this thread disdaining everything you hold dear (freedom and guns) and you launch an attach on Araysar? Did he kick your dog or something?

What are you nattering on about? Every restriction has a cost because it is restricting someone from doing something they might want to do, especially a victimless crime like simply owning a magazine. Police have to go around enforcing it, some people will get sent to jail for simply owning...

You are so disdainful of freedom. Every restriction has a cost. Plus it would be pretty fun to be going around my land plinking with a 6000 round magazine!

It is pretty much the only sensible explanation at this point.

What would the societal cost be of a 6000 round magazine? I would guess it would have close to zero cost, as again the amount of deaths caused with semi-auto rifles with 30round magazines is statistically insignificant.

Yet you just said last page that a restriction on magazine size would have zero cost. Again, can you PLEASE try and go 2 pages without contradicting yourself?

So you are starting off with something that would only effect an almost statistically insignificant thing (mass shootings), even further restricting THAT by making it mass shootings that involve rifles, and doing something that would only effect even that marginally? Again, if you want to...

Actually, you were the one saying that dipshit.

Except, you really do only have one "solution". Look at you unable to even consider anything past restrictions. God, you can't even go two pages without directly contradicting yourself.

I guess the answer is, Yes, he really is going to do that.

It won't get rid of violence, it will dramatically reduce it. Yet you aren't even interested in discussing them, because it doesn't involve banning. God, you really are narrow-minded. As Araysar said, open your mind and think a little outside your banbox.

Yet violence has continued to decrease as the world has gotten more modern and guns have increased in lethality. Which essentially disproves your point.

Why are you considering these restrictions? What are you trying to stop? If it is homicides, there are all kinds of other things to consider. Stopping the war on drugs. Working on income inequality. Enforcing current gun laws. Working to get rid of gangs and the gang culture in inner cities...

Burden of proof is on you bro. You are the one wanting to restrict what is currently allowed. What justification do you have for wanting magazines to be limited to 10 rounds? How many lives do you think it will save?

What restrictions do you think should be fine? What makes you worth debating with?

I think we already have enough gun laws in place. I was originally supportive of more restrictions on people that are mentally incompetent, but unfortunately its too easy for someone to be diagnosed with something like that because they are depressed and end up losing their second amendment...

Come at me bro.

No, you backtracked to try and sound moderate, but even your attempt fails because you continue to add conditions that are meaningless. "Legitimate self defense", "People that are scared of the government", "I still think you're probably a pussy, but less so". I mean, you think it makes...

You say that, but then say that anyone that owns a gun has a small penis or something and that the #1 problem in our country is our fascination with guns. You aren't a moderate on the issue, don't insult our intelligence by pretending that you are.

Sure, but if the uneducated person isn't willing to listen and just keeps repeating his silliness, then whats the point? It isn't like he is bringing up some novel points that are hard to counter.

I'm not asking you to leave because I want a thread without dissenting opinions. Im asking you to leave because you aren't contributing to the thread and are making yourself sound like a moron. Constantly showing how fearful you are of guns? Saying you care more about gun control than any other...

Guns are readily available and cheap all over the country. In fact they are MORE readily available and cheaper in all other parts of the country that don't have those restrictive gun laws. Yet our murder rate without those cities is quite low as a country. What really contributes to the...

So you admit guns aren't the problem?

Amazing how you can call someone Lumie-lite when you have been proved wrong on virtually everything you have said in this thread. Just lol at saying that our fondness for guns is the biggest problem in our country. That shit is straight Lumie-level ignorance.

Just finished and starting on book 2. Narrator of the audiobook of 2 is different from 1 and is horrible. Hopefully I can get past it.

Lists like that need to include what is on PC also. Calling something exclusive means little to me if it is still available on PC.

Afraid to look at wikipedia in case I get "spoiled" on what happens, but the numbers for the armies so far seem really small compared to what I thought the mongol armies have. Granted, I still haven't quite finished the first book of the series. Really good shit though, i love historical...

Astro just schooled someone on a fact in Game of Thrones. It's like my entire world is turned around now. Whats next, Microsoft not being an ass to their customers? Nah, won't happen.

RIFLE IS NOT FINE.

Fucking right it is.

I agree with this, as does 99.99% of gun owners. However, things like an AWB aren't equivalent to shouting fire in a theatre or something like that. It is more along the lines of banning cunt but allowing you to say vagina. They are arbitrary and limit our freedom without really making anyone...