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Yep, it isn't like I am happy about feeling like I have to be a one-issue voter now. I mean, my choice in last election was Akins of "legitimate rape" fame vs Mccaskill who is anti-gun.

Voting one-issue on guns isn't shortsighted. If anything it is playing the long game. It seems every decade or so the NRA has to show legislators that gun control isn't a winning issue. The only way to really do this is to have gun owners go one-issue for one election cycle.

Maybe the issue is that they don't want to give publicity to the game that helped motivate him? Anyway, I seriously doubt a game got him started. So yet again we see that a killer was motivated into trying to "top" other mass shooters. The only response we really see legislatively is to try...

Yep, Im not from Colorado but I definitely fell into this trap.

Probably. However, each day they wait the less likely it is to happen. Something like that would have passed immediately if they had put it up after Newtown. Instead they have wasted time with the AWB and people are caring about it less and less. At this point I would say we have a good shot of...

He killed those Kingsguard with his seven vs their three and almost died himself. Out of the 7, only himself and Howland Reed survived.

Jaime fought real fights to the death before, he isn't just some tourney night that never fought for real. Ned was a competent fighter, I loved the guy, but he has no shot against someone like Jaime.

Not so sure about that. We saw the NY ban and now possibly a California ban will come up. However, many other states have shown quite a bit of pro-gun movement. On the national level pretty much nothing has happened so far. I was very concerned at a rushed "Patriot Act" type bill or something...

and also "Please aim the camera at me". Total racist attention whore. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arp...ssination_plot

Thank you for validating me bringing this guy up as an example. You are really, right on this board, saying that guerilla forces have never overthrown their own governments? Read some fucking history, not just US history. edit: Also of course, in a situation in 10-20 years where the...

This guy is a ex-cop murderous lunatic. So the one thing we can be fairly sure of is that any sort of gun control would have had zero effect on this particular killing. He would have had access to guns regardless.

I hope he does end up in a bodybag. Especially before the LA PD manages to shoot up any more civilians hunting for him. I also don't have any perserve admiration for him, well, at least only in the "holy shit can the LA PD be any more incompetent?" vein.

Guerrilla warfare is exactly that. No one thinks abunch of civilians armed are going to resist the government by lining up and shooting at cops/military like they are redcoats.

Yeah, I was in the navy too. The amount of training you get in regards to shooting and military operations in the navy is a complete joke. As for being a police officer, we have already discussed plenty of times in this thread how little training the average policeman gets. If you go to the...

Let me also add I don't have any sympathy for this guy. I hope he gets killed and doesn't take down any more innocent lives. I just think its an interesting counterpoint to the "civilians with guns couldn't stop the government".

Earlier in this thread we had people laughing at the idea that civilians with guns could in any way stand up against the government (in the context of the 2nd amendment being the last guarantee of our rights). I just find that funny now given how essentially one "civilian" (not much training...

People that eat with their mouths open. Drives me batty.

By "exploiting the legal system", do you mean that they are obeying the current framework of laws and exercising their constitutional right to keep and bear arms?

I don't think you understand what "support" or "facts" mean, since all 4 of my points are facts and directly support my conclusion. But please, carry on with your single sentence posts that add nothing to the discussion. Maybe you can post another link in a week when Mother Jones puts up...

Did you read my post? I provided support for that opinion. Since you didn't read it, let me give you the cliffnotes. 1) The AWB would restrict certain firearms with cosmetic features (pistol grip stock, threaded barrel, etc). 2) Those cosmetic features have very little if any effect on...

So you think someone interested in a shooting will be all "Aww shit, if it isn't a genuine AR-15, I'm just going to stay at home!"? That is absurd. Common sense tells us that a criminal denied a tool to do something will try and find a substitute. Now if that substitute is less deadly...

It wouldn't be a 3% drop though Chaos. The mass shooters would just all use handguns. As for the argument that they wouldn't be able to kill as many people, well,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Tech_massacre, the highest death total mass shooting in the US so far was with handguns. The...

I think it would look pretty lame if her hair was a nice clean and shiny red while everyone else was dirty and covered in snow.

First of all, I am not Kinner. I am trying to have an honest debate with you. Fair enough, it wasn't a complete gun ban. However, they did ban all semi-automatics. So yeah, semi-automatic rimfires with 10 or fewer rounds are in circulation, and even those you have to jump through hoops for. You...

So let me get this straight. By your own statistics, after a complete gun ban and confiscation, the rate of homicides went down a bit and other crime possibly went up. You then sum it up by saying that no real conclusions can be derived from these statistics. In other words, by your own...

Maybe it is the son of Dog, I mean God. If 3 wise dogs show up bearing gifts, treat the puppy nicely.

Yep. It seems quite a few people came to this thread thinking that it was blatantly obvious something had to be done about assault weapons. Then they find out its only 3% of firearm deaths and the argument for the AWB kind of collapses. Then some people move on to the vague "well, if it would...

I do find it encouraging that on this liberal of a forum in general, where Obama was voted for very heavily for example, that so many of the posters are pro-gun. However, saying this thread is a circle-jerk is pretty silly, when the early parts of the thread were filled with some pretty...

Well, the argument goes that if it is greater than zero, at least that is better than giving people no chance to defend themselves at all. You have schools now educating their teachers to proactively react to a shooter. Don't just sit passively and let yourself or your students die. For...

Also, another stupid part of that article "Myth #2: Guns don't kill people-people kill people." Then it compares gun deaths to gun deaths. Of course if people have less guns or no access to guns, then gun deaths will decrease. The question is whether other crime will just increase to...

One of the issues is that if someone is stopped by a CC holder or a offduty leo early on then it doesn't become a mass shooting. Now the statistics on this are hard to track, since if someone is stopped early, was it going to be a mass shooting or something small? Hard to say. However, saying it...

We will put just as much work in rebutting it as you did in posting it.

Fixed. Plenty of liberals are pro-gun. Don't let the pro-gun rights crowd get divided on other issues.

We could also make it illegal to drive in someone else's driveway!

http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/29/health...html?hpt=hp_t2 That is fucking crazy to me, I had no idea arm transplants were even a thing.

Many times in this thread people have stated "You have nothing to worry about" in regards to this legislation, and have had discussions in the politics thread that being a one-issue gun voter is a bad idea. Yet take a look at the Patriot Act. Something passed in haste around a national tragedy...

Well, you kinda did (at least put it on republicans) by acting like only a Republitroll would support it. Anyway, it is shocking to me that there has been no real attempt to get rid of some of its provisions by Obama.

Fanaskin: Hates the UN and thinks its evil, unless its condemning Israel.

Great video Thorne. I find it interesting that he kinda poopoos hollowpoints, showing that the expansion many times leads to inadequate penetration in handguns.

The last version of this thread was vile enough, did we need another version of it? This thread should be rickshawed. It is an embarrassment.