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What's sad is that before the SJW hiring frenzy, they obviously cared about these kind of "science" aspects. It's why they made up that bullshit about entanglement communication, allowing them to transfer information instantly with entangled particles (Even though that's bullshit too, since...

What's really annoying is that Indians, by every metric that supposedly is evidence of 'white privilege', have more privilege than whites. Higher wages, less time for the same crime, less infractions in schools, high graduation %, higher populations in high earning fields ect.

Yeah....watching more, god damn these characters seem bad. They mix elements that shouldn't be mixed. Essentially they are trying to mix the two arcs below. 1.) Naive, earnest and ambitious kids who start off overly idealistic and have people doubt them and dismiss them (IE they only got...

Same. But ouch at this dialogue. “I tend to live the way I work: kinda “feel it, do it.” Not a lot of close ties, no real sense of purpose I haven't ranted about SJWs in bioware except for the racist dude--but honestly, one thing I've noticed about full on SJW writers is they tend to be...

Exclusion that leaves a massive subjective range still doesn't specify anything. If you're saying that it's wrong to believe one can define art? That is not the same as a belief that there is a true form of art. I can exclude shit on a plate, and still have a massive disagreement over what is...

Yep, you guys certainly finished...in 5 pages. I think I'm done with you as well, I mean we both know you've been trolling and obviously the last couple comments with the 'kick me in my teeth' and having to talk about how you're laughing, and not reading because you're raging with embarrassment...

This whole thread has essentially been a less funny Zoolander, with Feanor as Zoolander. It actually got comical after I realized a few pages in he was literally using my argument, while saying he disagreed with me.

Well, at least you admitted it. Your sentence flip? Doesn't change anything in the sentence you ignorant twat (Literally, it changes nothing.) I put subjectivity first because I knew getting through 2 sentences for you was difficult--I mean christ by the end I was doing Sesame Street bits to...

No, it's just I don't often re-answer questions for retards after literally explaining what they want to know for 2 days straight often expounding on it and explaining in detail only to come back to being asked again, with a side of "I have potato". Lets count the times I said there is still a...

No its not, because clearly pages later you say its not totally subjective. Do you know what consistent means?

Tan, I haven't been responding to you because your posts are better examples of how pretentious and vacuous this is than anything I could explain. So thank you for that. Please, continue--show everyone how bad this is.

You're trolling now right? I honestly can't tell. You seem to be doing some kind of weird mimicry of my post. My post (The one I quote), by the way, came at the start of my posting in this thread--my argument has been consistent this entire time (Right from fucking post 1). Your post is a quote...

Good thing I didn't say "not at all" then, did I? I said not totally. The argument is very fucking basic and rather than confronting it you either misread it or are willfully misinterpreting it because your argument is shit. Not semantics, as I said I would when I said I'll bring you back to...

It's not fine, because that's not what happens. I will make fun of people who try to jump away from the subject or argue semantics, but more often than not I'm reminding people about the meat of the argument. Which is how you ended up saying "what are we arguing about". We're arguing because...

Yeah, no one is saying there is any true view of art. I have no idea where you're getting this bullshit.

Sure. If an artist comes in an explains what people will find attractive about it without citing his personal experiences. What in the work he believes will draw people in in order to allow him to tell his story (And what can be recreated so work of this kind can be judged), and then the...

No one is saying not to make new fields up, sure--the rules for a field will become niche for that field. "Classical art is this" "Impression is this". The point being that there are standards which quantify a work. If you make up a new form of art, then it shouldn't be hard to make arbitrary...

This one I'll take in good faith because the definition for subjective has pretty broad. I'm using it as dependent on the mind or on an individual's perception for its existence. A gram only exists as as a unit of measurement because a human wanted it to be that (Which is really post modernism's...

How are we this far into the debate and you still haven't figured out the basic premise for the problem? Like how is that possible. Zz is right, you can't fucking read, can you? An agreed upon base value. So the measurement is a subjective that is agreed upon, correct? Objective reality is...

Couple pages late, Zz beat you to that joke.

That is literally what being objective means. All measurements are agreed up, Lend. Even if we base it off nature, we still agree on its name. A gram is is a gram because we all agree that should be our unit of mass. Yet the gram would be a near universal measurement in society, very objective...

Yes, that's eloquently stated. Humans are attracted to certain things thanks to our biology, certain patterns, noises, tastes are pleasing. Then we find certain things attractive on top of that thanks to culture--which can vary but in general you can develop big correlations here between...

Fuck, Lend. Do you even read what I write? A world class figure skater, if he goes out and does a great routine, you may have some subjective disagreement on the EXACT numbers (Like our 70% medication)...But in general the scores will all be decently high. And guess what? Any figure skating...

Yes, objectivity means removing it from your frame of mind. Using a measurement, even if the measurement was agreed upon before hand subjectively. As for American dance? That depends. I'd want to infer with others on why people like it, experiment with what works, and find patterns in the...

Not all Jazz is improve. Good improvisational Jazz most certainly does follow musical standards. Do you think those guys get up there and just blow their fucking horns dude? I can answer this one, since I actually was in Jazz band in highschool, I actually did a professional gig with my horn...

The prosecution rests. Thank you Tan, for proving that who knows you makes something art, not any quality of the expression. (No one needed know who Michelangelo to look up at the Sistine chapel and say "that's something special". Yet nearly everyone would need to KNOW who Pollock is to even...

I'm not an artist, why would I work out objectivity for art (Like this is what specialists in a field DO, they make up measurements that when used give people a good idea of qualities and let them compare them)? The golden rule is not a fallacy, it's just not an absolute causation, it...

It's not important to me, fighting this cancer ripping art, literature and now STEM apart is. The religious cooks were banished from a lot of the fields I love, I'm now seeking to do the same to these post modernist idiots, who are even worse ideologically. Anyway, I do actually have to get...

I thought art was subjective. How can you say they aren't bro?

No.

Okay, then that painting and Ono screaming are art, right? Me shitting on a plate is also art, right?

Yeah, I wouldn't stick around after I tried to defend something and then rejected major exhibits of it being "not good". Have you ever sold work for 90 million? You ever performed in the premier platform for you 'art", the The Museum of Modern Art? No? Then who the fuck are you to make these...

First, that painting sold for 90 million dollars bro. I didn't low ball and find some shit that's obscure--that's one of the most valuable pieces of "modern art" ON EARTH. How do you want me to find something more "skillful'? What....standards...are you willing to apply so I...

Strange, and yet it would be instantly recognizable as music to anyone. Just like some tribal chants sound strange, but I can tell they are music. In fact, because Metallica and Chopin both used AGREED upon, universal measurements for pitch? Even the patterns in their music would be...

Incorrect. I only go by external truth, I enjoy standards by which to judge things against. For example, in art--I want to know the reason why certain elements draw people in, even if there are variations. I want to know the objective standards of 'truth' in that field, even if they are looser...

Can anything be art?

You're responding to me, though. You need to view all of my actions in any given argument and then apply it to the objective paradigms we're arguing under. If you only ever read half, or nothing at all, then you've already set yourself out to make up your own reality. Objective "truth", for...

The universe is just a series of information transfers, technically all of existence is "language" then; photons bosons and gluons are just "talking" to other particles--your reductio ad absurdum is silly. Your point would only make sense if music and art could not be engaged and followed by...

Well, I mean this explains why Post-modernism and subjective standards of reality appeal to you. In order to live in an objective world you need the patience to learn things and be able to predict information (Which allows you to more accurately describe reality). If you just make arguments half...

I would classify them as information, like language. They often have specific meanings that can be altered by the context of other information--like a word.