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Well again think of it from the perspective of someone who's first MMO was Wrath of the Lich King, or some other bag of shit MMO. When you describe an MMO like Pantheon to them it probably sounds like all a ton of bullshit tedium with no real positives.

Maybe he should start his own channel. "Keeping it real with Brad"

I am starting to think you don't know what an Alpha is like. Most people aren't going to want to play it even if 6,000 people have access to it.

No I am well aware of everything with Curt Schilling, I have been at these boards since Luclin was current. You are right anything can happen but I meant is I think his intention is to try and make the game, if that turns into a mismanaged fiasco that would make a VH1 behind the music story look...

Yeah, anyone who thinks that he will use the money he might get from this on anything but the game is just trolling. If this gets funded he will use to for staff, office space, and whatever else is needed. (What you can aruge, is that the money won't be used efficiently and they might not...

I appreciate the response, the thing is I actually believe you could raise quite a bit of money a little further down the road through kickstarter. I know you are working hard on this and it continues to improve but I don't understand why you guys don't re-define your current efforts. I think...

Actually, they changed it the first set of stretch goals went up to almost $7 million and was more fucked up than the current one. I know you are like how could it be more fucked up, well it was.

Pantheon: Update 26: Addon's Well I guess that's one way to do it. If you can't get new backers might as well see if you can get the current ones to double down.

Yeah, well that was a smart move by "ponytail" then. Felicia Day has about 2.2million twitter followers and is pretty well connected and respected in many areas that it just seemed like an obvious choice to reach out to. You if you are familiar with "the guild" she even made her own show related...

I will do my best to answer, and don't get me wrong I certainly don't expect everyone to agree with me. I disagree that the two things are inseparable, it might seem like a subtle difference to you funding Pantheon or funding Visionary Realms, Inc. and while at first glance they might seem like...

They can't at this point. They could have before they pissed away all their good will with the community, it might of been possible to pull it down think it through and relaunch it before they started giving interviews and people took notice. Pandora's box has been opened and out poured...

Come the fuck off of it you retarded cunt, and stop pretending this isn't anything more than it is.. I said in the beginning and I will say it again now that people are starting to catch on. THIS FUCKING KICKSTARTER IS A FRAUD!!! It should of been taken down the moment it was shown the...

By that same reasoning why would he not?

Really it just comes down to the fact that this is nothing more than a giant fucking cash grab.

You're a towel.

It could just be these guys are a group of Socially Awkward Penguins, to them they aren't making any mistakes really, they honestly just do not know any other way. Given what they have shown they can churn out so far what's going to make you guys pledge cold hard cash to them again on the next...

Just curious but what voodoo magic is going to make people double their pledges? There is optimism which can be a good thing, but what you are talking about it a new level of desperation.

Not the current team, maybe if they had a respectable project lead or CEO calling the shots and keeping them on track and some funding, even then a long shot.

I know I get shit for it but these hacks don't deserve money for what they have produced. That's about as cut and dry as it will ever get. If this kickstarter gets funded great but it really doesn't deserve to be.

Damn no love for the the kryptonian at all it seems.

What's left the discuss really though? Brad, Cocaine, and Ferraris ? How shitty the kickstarter is ? The tiers are confusing and stupid ? Suggestions that might help fund the game ? Shemale posters ? How great EQ was ? Vanguard didn't work out ? Brad only has one shirt ? WoW vs EQ...

It's been that way for about a week now.

Think of it as a mercy killing, she needed to be put down anyways.

That's really it though, nobody really wants them to fail, everyone here would love to see an amazing MMO that we can play for 10+ years that beats our wildest dreams. People want a great MMO to play, if anything fails here it's because they failed themselves by not preparing properly and taking...

This is and isn't true at the same time, you would be hard pressed to get anyone disagreeing that playing dance dance revolution, mashing a button rotation, watching procs, and trinkets, and boss mechanics was harder than hitting auto attack and waiting 15 minutes for the Avatar of War to die...

The reason some of the negativity as you put it is needed is to counter balance the misplaced positivity that some are putting forth. There are some people who would love to sweep every mistake about Brads past, and all the shortcomings of this Kickstarter under the rug and only focus on the...

I know that is the target audience but maybe that shouldn't be the only audience.

You are right they need to lay it all on the line, but really things like enchanter skills, or in game swag, it's going to influence anyone but the hard core nerds, mainly those of us here. Pantheon has to appeal to people who maybe never played EQ or Vangaurd before. Someone suggested a...

So reading through the last few pages people are suggesting the tiers be different than and the new $25.00 tier is good, maybe they should offer better in game rewards, maybe the $250 +1 dollar lifetime is good, then again someone who can pledge $250 for a possible game might not be so worried...

You got that backwards 1pm PST is 4 pm EST

This is very true, it's both a good and bad thing sometimes to focus on a niche group. The good thing is they support you implicitly and that's why he was able to get the pledges that have come in so far without much to show, the bad thing is that group is rather small. The only way he will be...

I might even give a fuck it you contributed to the thread but oh well.

The 10 devs and their wives all make an account and pledge a few thousand each knowing that they will get it back in 3-4 weeks when the kickstarter fund clears. It would be kind of shady and require a bit of effort to get done, I mean if really motivated Brad could make 20 accounts on his own...

She does quite a bit of game related work so it is possible, even so unless she couldn't talk about it via some sort of contract reason it would still be worth wild to reach out to her. If she couldn't promote him directly maybe he could join on of the table top game blogs for a day and get this...

You say that but that's pretty much what's happening already. This $800k kickstarter is for funding the setup and foundation of this game. There will be another kickstarter or two before the project is completed or they will have to seek out investors. Obviously seeking out investors is much...

Now you are just making shit up.

Oh really? What were my original estimates? Jesus you American Inventors love to bandwagon shit without even reading posts, I have said plenty of positive shit about the idea and offered suggestions for improvement, not everything I say is bashing this game in spite what some dipshit posters would have you...

Did you even look at their Kickstarter though? Republique by Camouflaj + Logan by Camouflaj Kickstarter There is a world of difference between the two.