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He might have good intentions but that excuse holds no backing really. I don't mean this to come across as cold but it doesn't matter the circumstances he has at home, what matters is what he is bringing to the table, that's it! We aren't his friends, his buddies, or pals. Nobody here has any...

You know considering the type of game people are asking for why doesn't someone just make an EQ clone with updated graphics, I mean most everything in EQ was generic enough that you could damn near copy all of the classes without running into any legal issues. I mean for fuck sake it's damn near...

Don't worry guys I am sure the next PC Gamer update will get us the other 600k

Don't worry I am sure he will pull that 10k when the time is right.

What kind of mental gymnastics do you have to go through to come up with this shit? Tell you what if you tell me you have a hoof I'll apologize and we can make out.

No we expect him to be a fucking professional with 20+ years of experience like he is claiming. We expect him to have a team and a plan together prior to asking for money. He is no better than a fucking bum outside of McDonald's at this current level of helplessness. 10 to 1 odds that all of...

Should we wipe his ass too, how about tie his shoes for him when he gets up and dress him for work. Here's the instruction manual since you seem to need one... Step 1 - Ask someone who aren't paying what the common fucking sense solution is to whatever dumbshit you are about to do is...

Yes fuck you indeed for giving a fuck about a generic he, or she on this fucking board. That's crazy cunt talk right there. And come the fuck off it.. Yes we told him to get out and spread the fucking word "I.E. let everyone know about the goddamn kickstarter" what we didn't tell him to do is...

No, I certainly haven't been. What the fuck is this some sort of goddamn scavenger hunt? Are we meant to go from site to site, hunting down bits and pieces of this fucking up mess and put together the Kickstarter for him? If there is any reason not to give this guy money would be because he is a...

So what you are saying is they are updating things with no indication that they have been updated, Brilliant!!!! I know most people on kickstarter re-read through content every few hours in the hopes that it will be changed without knowing about it. I am not complaining at you Zoeii, if they...

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Actually, if you read through my posts I haven't even complained about Vanguard or how it was handled, I haven't threatened to pull funding or any of the other shit many have done. The past is the past, everything I have been critical of is this current project and how it is being handled. I...

Is there really much incentive to donate at the higher tiers though? Do I want a Taurokian Warhorse from the Ogre world of Gruundark? I mean maybe tell us about the travel, or hell elaborate on the Ogre world of Gruundark, I would like to know about it. Maybe show the tentative zone layout if...

If that was being offered don't you think they would of just said that from the start? You don't slow play a 30 day cash grab event. If they had access to Unrest, Befallen, Guk, Blackburrow, Qeynos, ect, ect. you don't think they would have mentioned it?

Which is why this isn't a Kickstarter for Pantheon and shouldn't even be listed as such. It's a Kickstater for the development and staffing of Visionary Realms, Inc., in fact I wonder if that's against Kickstarter's rules and it was pointed out to them they would pull the project. Hell might...

Money first work later. Got it.

This is what I have been so critical about, but when so many people come in after and start White Knighting everything it just gets comical.

Ok sure I would like to see something thought out and actual goals in mind like thisMighty No. 9. Here is seasoned veteran of the gaming world who has worked on past successful titles, who has a dream of recreating that magic of an old school style game. Almost sounds familiar, only difference...

I can see it now. "Ok guys make sure you all hang out in Halas or Permafrost for at least 2 hours tonight we expect Lady Vox to pop any time now and you need your resistance buff." meanwhile Lord Nagafen spawns, but sorry guys we only have frost resist too bad.

Well that's the beauty of Kickstarter, not everyone has to believe what you do, if you feel they need nothing then all you need to do is plop down a measly $608,729 to make it a reality. It's just a fact of business in general and not even MMO's you need to be a salesman first and foremost if...

What's still crazy is if you read the article the guy really believes he is revealing a lot of information, I would hate to think what we would get if it was holding back.

So the big reveal is Resist Gear plus a resist bonus based on the time in the zone? I am sorry I doubted this for even a moment, clearly that should be enough content that we all toss in $1000 each right now.

Reading all the dumbass ideas about making a kickstarter for a kickstater had lead me to a dumbass idea of my own.. KickStartKickStarter.com - It will be a site where people can kickstart their ideas to put on kickstarter, I will put up my own kickstarter for it. Who wants to go in on the...

Just got back from 2024, Nope no Pantheon, but oddly enough in the last 10 years people other than Brad made video games. It was most excellent.

Fuck you kid. I know you are gargling balls but a highly polished KS is the key to getting the fucking KS funded. Nobody ever said a polished KS was a key to making a good game. Trust me if by some miracle they pull funding out of their asses, there will be plenty of "To much Brown" posts we can...

Last thing this group of cunts really needs though it more understanding and coddling, you are trying to make excuses and say well they are really passionate, but re-watch Brads Q&A.. During his monotone droning on about vague bullshit did you see any passion?

There is no info to give. Literally what we have seen is all they have got. They are asking for funding to put together the info you want, this is the kickstarter for the kickstater if you will.

Maybe PC Gamer has enough respect for their readers that they don't feel what they got is worth publishing. Yes I am being overly cynical at this point but this mother fucker really needs a goddamn reality check.

Many people are suggesting a Kickstarter for the Kickstarter and things like that but really this ship has sailed. Fact is simple as this, this Kickstarter is a lie, it's disingenuous at best and a flat out fraud at worse. The reason it's amateur is because this Kickstarter is not for Pantheon...

The problem here is this is an assumption and while it might be a decent one it would be much better if they took the time to spell it out. They could do what you said, or they could plan on selling it out once they get it far enough along that a major studio will buy it, or they could go on a...

I made this same point many pages back and then got bitched at by the McQuaid Brigade about how we're not investors and only need to be told things on a need to know basis.

Are you fucking serious? When a guy egotistical enough to brag about his 20+ years making iconic games like Everquest and blah blah, you would think simple shit like a business plan and/or an outline of what it would take to make this game would be the bare fucking minimum of shit to provide...

Come on some common fucking sense helps out here. People being hyped up is a good thing hearing Bard McQuaid is going to release a kickstarter is exciting news so of course people would clamor for it. Then when you are presented with nothing of substance followed by a fair bit of...

We both know there is fuck all coming down the pipeline, only games of even slight interest are Wildstar and EQN neither of which are going to offer the old school gaming style many of us are after. In a nutshell 90% of what people want is EQ with 2014 graphics and Blizzard level responsiveness...

No I am super serious I am pretty sure this PC Gamer interview will really turn it around forVangaurdPantheon

Here's your"surprise hit"while it might not have a PC Gamer interview at least they meet the requirements to be listed on Greenlight which is more than Pantheon can say.

I'm sorry I just don't buy the idea that it's this poorly executed idea or nothing at all. Maybe it isn't the old guard who will make the game we want, I would probably be best if we got some fresh blood making an MMO as long as they don't have a background in Marine Biology we might have a shot.

Sometimes it's better for all to put things out of their misery, than to let it die a slow meaningless death.