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Yeah, true. Not gonna deny that. But I do buy some of them and play them as well. Its kinda depressing really, because weve been playing the same game for the last 10 yrs.

So why are you even here spewing your bullshit over and over? You have countless games to play now. WoW, LOTRO, SWTOR, Tera, GW2, STO, AoC, Rift, Aion, DDO.... Soon to be TESO and Wildstar. So why come hear to preach? You think youre gonna change our minds with this shit? The industry already...

That wow clones fucking suck?

No actually I want something new. But If I had a choice now in a new EQish or UOish game over this trash that's been and will be coming out, I would choose one of those in a heartbeat. Why? Well its not because they were better games or whatever. Simply because they would be different than what...

Im with you brother, and so are others here. Keep up the good fight. But sadly this and Brad is not the answer. But there is still a slight glimmer of hope. See dudes like the ones you linked will eventually get it as well. It will just take them a few more boring ass games to finally get it.

So how bout some scoopage on classes and some tactics in PvP...

Gargle with some bleach, and rub some fresh garlic on your penis.

I personally don't want anyone to leave here. Its entertaining to say the least.

Roast like that I usually sear the shit out of it on all sides and 4 hours in 350F oven covered.

I don't give a shit about it either, but its a nice touch to have on the "main quest" all the side quests and all that are a waste that could of went into some more content somewhere.

Just binged watched this and its fucking awesome.

If its one thing they should nationalize and regulate is the infrastructure surrounding cable and internet. Then let the shitty ISPs pay to use it. Then we will finally have a choice and competition among them.

American men ski team is fucking weak this Olympics.

How bout posting a few screenshot like tuco did. Take one of one of the npcs.

Im just busting your balls man. Im still getting this though because, yeah, Im a filthy whore with nothing to play right now.

Nice, Im glad this funded!

*****Crickets*****

So tell us some shit that only an insider would know pertaining to PvP now that you have no fear of losing your precious beta account, lol.

Well you dont have to pick gawdy ugly looking cases either. I chose the antec 300. Its a simple design, no bullshit and it rather looks nice tucked away on the side of my desk in the family room. The other one I have in the living room. I have the flat sceen on a small lamp table and the case...

LOL, talking about cabin fever, damn!

Thats good to hear Tuco. It gives me renewed faith.

Ive been married for 12 yrs now bro. Were way past the point of delivering flowers at work thing. In fact my wife would be pissed that I essentially threw money out the window. Now if you are courting some girl and trying to cop a piece, then by all means, deliver away.

Wha? While McQuaid fucked 250,000 out of $60, Jacobs fucked 800,000 people out of $60. The only problem is that McQuaid is a bit more well known than Jacobs ever was.

Bullshit, no one ever mentioned any "core principals" other than focused on grouping and challenge. The rest of the shit was made up by you and dumar in your heads.

Yeah but in reality was this ever really about a true EQ clone? He never mentioned an EQ clone. What he mentioned is bringing back some of the old principles like focused content for grouping no instancing, in a more modern game etc... no one ever on that team ever mentioned "EQ clone." Its...

Definitely. Hardcore and even softcore PvP gamers are their own entire entity.

Im telling you guys, its the entire quest based leveling model. There is only so much of this shit you can take in several games before it just becomes drab, no matter how good the story or whatever. Its simply played out by now and just flat out boring.

There is a lot of variables at play here to just flat out say there is not market there because of this KS. What I think they greatly underestimated is the KS itself. I think McQuaid thought that just putting up the KS with "Renowned EQ creator" on it would garner millions of dollars.

I dont understand why the hassle to create such small systems. Why not just buy a laptop then which is smaler self contained and portable with actual components that are made to withstand the heat and are designed with heat dissipation in mind? I mean to each their own I guess, but you dont...

Well I didnt have to face the target as a melee. I dont know if it was lag or what but you know those rogue guys that would jump behind you mid fight? Well my specials would still land on them while they were behind me and I was not facing them. I noticed this several times during the weekend...

Lithose ive been reading your shit and its quite fascinating, just your general deep though and understanding of these systems. Im truly humbled, dude. Anyways, what were some of the downfalls of eqs death systems as you see them? Since all you seemed to cover was its strengths. I mean the...

What would be the point of 1000ft walls if you can just build an obsidian forged ballista or whatever to punch a big hole in it? What they could do in a PvP type environment is have preset templates you could only use, to keep it balanced. How do you balance the 24 hour cycle? Like what...

I think you hit the nail on the head here. There just needs to be more than emblems of classes some napkin scribbles and 3 pieces of art. People want to see more, especially with Brads shady past. Like I said, youre only as good as your last mmo. They need to head down to the basement for a...

So in other words Microsoft bought into "Brad McQuaid" not "the game".

Not really. Like brad says original EQ was done with 23 people for $8 mill on archaic systems. Basically the entire system was built from the ground up using some tank simulation game. Now they have the tools to do it way cheaper and more efficiently. If the game is well done, good...

Well I still think that if a retro EQ like game came out that was well made, I think it would do quite well. I think they are selling themselves short with >100K subs. I think it would do way more than that. especially in the cesspool we have these days of mmorpg games. But it would have to...

ROFL, It reminds me when we bought the kids an Atari 2600 retro controller, that you just plugged into the tv. I think it had like 30-50 games on it, or some shit. They were all excited until they plugged it in and saw some pong looking shit on the screen. You should of saw their faces, it was...

Well that, again depends on the EXP hit. If its just a pittance that can be gained within 30 min, then yeah, everyones gonna be parayin to the gods up in this bitch. But if they make it substantial, lets say 2-3 hours worth of exp, it will make people think before praying.

The only thing they will be dancing on is all the piles of cash this will make them. Does that make you upset?

Not a corpse run, but you still lose exp. Meh. I actually like Vanguards better.