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That easy, eh?

That is exactly what I'm saying. Just because one, or both parties, are fine with having unconsented sex, does not mean it did not happen, and does not mean there was no wrongdoing.

How so?

People do not 'get charged' with rape, or any other crime, by some nebulous legal being. They get charged by their victim. If nobody has been victimized, then there is no charge. Get it?

Lower your weapons dude. You seemed to imply that you had information that I did not. I just wanted it too. Wonder where I got the impression that you had concrete evidence that she had, in fat, never rejected him: "He's going by what's known of the case" - Famm

Whoa... I didn't realize you could post in this forum without being RRPed. Mind = blown. Mind you, I'm gonna have to do something so I get shawed at least once so I can post here legit.

I would argue that if both parties are drunk, neither is capable of giving, nor receiving consent. Many drunken one night stands will pass by without incident, despite the fact that it was 'mutual rape'. The problem arises when one party has an issue with this situation.

Wtf is your point? When did this become about men vs. women? I am talking about fucking rape, not women's rights. Men also need to give consent. Are you trolling me?

Sorry, where is it stated that she never rejected his advances off camera? I must have missed that information. Please point me to it if you could.

Az... Are you fucking serious? A passed out drunk woman is incapable of saying 'no'. A woman who fears for her future social/economic/whatever safety may be incapable of saying 'no'... That does NOT mean she is giving consent. You are killing me here, man...

I'm not. I'm comparing it to rape via emotional/social coercion.

Azrayne: What is making you 'pretty sure'? That sensationalist news report? Or do you know the individuals in question? No, I do not apply my coercion standards to every situation. I do, however, apply it to situations where someone is clearly getting taken advantage of based on said...

Well ya... That's kinda the major flaw in our legal system in almost every case where someone accuses someone else of something. It's why lawyers exist.

Oh he went to jail alright - Federal assrape jail too. Dude was a goaltender and tiny. Like 5'8. I bet he's having fun getting his shit pushed in forcefully. Fitting. I totally disagree that Social/emotional coercion (especially while under the influences of drugs/alcohol) for the purposes of...

Physical force is not the only way to coerce someone into doing something against their will. My story was more to relay the concept of people getting themselves into a situation willingly, that can quickly turn into something they didn't sign on for. PerhAps this skank was loving getting her...

Short anecdote about an ex room mate of mine in college: She was kind of a drunken slut. Hell, I had two pretty awesome 3 ways with her and her best friend... So ya, questionable morals to say the least lol. Anyway, she was always the type to not look out for herself at all in public drinking...

It is a total shitnado. Along with the manastone issue, people were allowed to invis pull (exploit) spore king for months and bank huge numbers of fungi tunics. There is a massive amount of plat focused in the hands of several people, but more importantly, certain guilds. How does this...

Don't even respond to him. I'm pretty sure all 200 of his posts are regurgitating the same bullshit idea. I'd put good money on a bet that says he hasn't even played Mortal Online.

This is why I have hope for Brad's new project. EQ is an anomaly. I called it a 'fluke' in another thread, but I'm nt sure that's the correct word for the situation. Brad and Steve worked at a freakin' nursery making inventory spreadsheets, but in their spare time were pursuing their passion...

I hated getting attacked by every bullshit mob I ran past in GW2 when I was max level. I was never in danger... I was just annoyed.

I had to google who Groucho Marx even was... And I'm 30.

I bet it's a fucking Rose. Like your glasses. For TESO. ... ... ...

They are just sooooo bad at this lol. I find it so difficult to believe there isn't like a single ounce of cool in that building. Butler is as close as it comes and that's scary.

Sorry man, but you have to understand what it looks like to an outsider... perhaps I'm way off base you seem to have a personal vendetta against ZO and the people in charge there. It's really just as bad as the (supposed) shills.

Utnayan, seriously, which of these companies did you get laid off/fired from? You are bashing this game with such fervour that you have to have some kind of motivation. It's starting to get fucking weird and annoying. I come to this thread to get some actual information and 90% of the posts are...

Not sure this was posted. MMORPG podcast with EQ Franchise people. Highlghts: Georgeson claims EQN will be quite difficult, and group oriented. Death penalties are in. Terry says there will be solo content, but that content will be different activities with different rewards than group...

The combat ain't great, but who knows, maybe it'll get better. To be honest, I don't think I've truly loved the combat in any MMORPG that I have played. I play MMOs for other reasons, and it's those other reasons that has really grabbed my interest for TESO (which, i'll admit, has gone up and...

go play EVE, man

Don't buy anything until late November. Expected Nvidia release and price drop from what I'm hearing around the interwebs.

GW2 was the last MMORPG I actually bought and played to max... It disappointed me so much I haven't bothered with any more. Ill log into Vanguard every now and then, get depressed, and go play an FPS. Waiting anxiously for the EQ:N/TESO/Wildstar releases, but I don't have much hope for any of them.

This game looks incredible. Too bad it's a Microsoft game, and I wouldn't give them a dime unless there was a gun pointed at my head. Is there an MMO aspect to this? Can you create an MMORPG in your space and have people connect to it? What are the size limits on the world you can create...

I would but I'm banned for RMT :P

I game in my office. Alone. All alone. Gaming in the living room is the most annoying crap in the world for me. Either the kid is needing/wanting something, or the wife is on the phone talking to one of her retarded friends, or the garbage on the TV is breaking my immersion. No thanks...

How do you guys feel about race/class restrictions? The reason I ask is because I downloaded EQ last night (pretty drunk) and was trying to pick a server... And Firiona Vie was calling to me. Really felt like geeking out on the role play server. I got it in my head that I wanted to role play...

So, I downloaded this for shits and giggles, and have a couple questions. 1. Is there a server a bunch of you are on? Or a server with a nice healthy population I should consider? 2. Class choice. Lots has changed in 10 years. What class should I roll? I don't want to play anything that...

What kind of retard wants to play a PC game in their living room? Half the joy of it is escaping to my man cave, putting on my head set, and ignoring the whole world so I can blow off steam. (no pun intended)

The are monetizing the actual land, so I'm guessing you are right. Anything beyond a very simple house will probably cost either a small amount of money or a huge amount of time. Just budget $60 for it like a normal game purchase if you enjoy it and I'm sure you'll be fine.

I will forever envy Xbox owners for their access to super meat boy.

Quite the contrary, I think Brad's clear love of fantasy can be seen in his body of work, and I trust his judgement to create an interesting and engaging world more than anyone else. However, do I trust him to make a great game? No. I guess it all depends how you define 'successful' MMO.

Watch that documentary. The two lead 'designers' (Brad & Steve) previous experience was a game that sold 1500 copies... They worked at a seasonal nursery making spreadsheets to track the age of plants in stock... No shit... But hey, they played a ton of DND.