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In other words, another dungeon lobby. I hope Brad is not that fucking stupid.

Thanks for the effort man... But sadly the only games on that list that even come close are actual Everquest, Vanguard and obviously project 1999 which I already play. And again 'making EQ again is dumb' claim with no supporting data... You populate a list of EQ-like MMOs with games that are...

Still waiting for that list of EQ-like MMOs...

Got any examples? Would love to check them out.

Wow man... Prepare to be massively disappointed.

Sorry man... Just 3 replies in a row from 3 unique posters were picking at minor physical aesthetic and wardrobe preferences of a dude just doing his job... That he probably fucking hates. Needed to put a lid on it

Post RL pics or stfu. Btw only homos critique other men. Grow some balls.

what the hell are you talking about? Where did i say i needed AAA quality? I believe i asked you to point me at any MMOs with similar mechanics to EQ... your absurd suggestion was an FFA loot PVPMMO with action combat... Still looking into Wizardry Online, but im not sure im interested in...

Don't mean to be too much of a downer (badum ching!) but this is an Aradune quote from 2010: "After a needed three[-]year break from 11 years of working on massively multiplayer games with the large teams, budgets, and 3-5 year development cycles[,] I think this will be a nice change of pace...

Isn't Darkfall a PVP MMO? Not interested. If there are PVE MMOs out there with meaningful death and an open world, please direct me to them. hmm found an article when you post prompted me to do google search on MMOs that may not be for the faint of heart. Came up with this...

I wonder if any of us will still give a shit in 2019 when this comes out

I'm still waiting for one person who makes this assertion to show some data supporting it. There has not been an MMORPG launched with these gameplay mechanics since EverQuest in 1999, except Vanuard, which really isn't a good case (disastrous launch coupled with a buggy unfinished product)...

I'm not sure an MMO has ever 'hooked' me in 30 minutes... Maybe GW2... And that turned out to be garbage. Even EQ took multiple play sessions for me to care. The only reason WoW 'hooked' me is because I was already familiar with the MMO raid meta and I knew I wanted to be bleeding edge right...

This too. There seems to be this thought that just because casual MMOs have succeeded, that hardcore ones would immediately fail. Where's the example? Other than early EQ, based on what data are these conclusions being drawn? Vanguard? Even after it's dismal launch it still sold 250,000 boxes...

GLobal auction houses are the devil

It's not about the deadlines of the gun itself, but how little training it takes to be lethal with one. A soldier with a gun is very similar in deadliness to a civilian. Compared to a trained archer or an untrained archer that is.

That too.

New subscription rate always drops at the end of an expansion cycle, the question is, does the next expansion cycle increase it or not.

Dude... Look at the rate subs were climbing before SOL... Then look after. Take a deep breath too.

Ya know what man, I wonder that too. Why did it stop being hardcore? Could it have been around late 2001 with the release of Luclin? You know, the well recognized time of the 'end of the classic era' of EverQuest? Oooooh look, a steady subscriber increase right up until the moment of SoL's...

I really hate to break this to you... but EverQuest stopped being 'hardcore' long before WoW ever existed. There was never an EverQuest there to go back to. As much as I sometimes disagree with etchazz's hardline stances, that whole post made you sound ridiculous.

Reverse blumpkin? That all it takes around here these days?

I'm honestly starting to think etchazz is Jeff Butler trolling the shit out of us

Obvious troll is obvious

We're you playing in first or third person? I tried both and found the controls far more satisfying in 3rd.

I have been a casual MMORPG player since about 2006... And I can honestly say... Fuck casuals.

Sorry man but that sounds kinda good to me... Maybe the skill 'Tracking' is unlocked by exploring a certain area of the map... While 'Assassination' is obtained by performing 10,000 backstabs. Maybe a teleport Ability is found by interacting with a crystal deep in a dungeon, while a 'Haste'...

That's exactly what I did in GW2, and it was the best levelling experience I have had in years (even if it was way too fast)

Everyone knows Everquest had terrible derivative lore, right? They ditched it because it sucked. That's the reason.

Every MMO thread in general has its blind gospel followers right now. Blackwulf is not Firor, just like Teekey is not Butler.

Of the two recent MMORPG betas I have participated in, TESO and FF14, I have to say I enjoyed my time in TESO quite a bit more... The game world felt more 'real' to me, and everything just felt higher quality. The game is stunning, and I really like the compass rather than a mini map. Ran like a...

Some would argue, the fee for playing GW2 is having to see the cash shop

Bundled services bro. I pay $85/month for cable, Internet, and home phone.

Depending on the MMO product, realistically, I could justify up to $40 a month... That's about the price of my cable TV service and I barely get any entertainment value from that crap.

Cheater

Damn nda

I think what they're saying is that there will still be trinity style combat if you so choose to play that way, however, it will no longer be necessary, and in some percentage of situations it wont even be optimal. I'm envisioning situations where mitigation is more important than...

Thanks man

Anyone got a Link to where you enter the beta key?

No no, I saw it...you have a very strange definition of someone with 'issues'... I think I'm being pretty level headed and calm... and just expressing my dissatisfaction with a service I am receiving. Honestly though, it's unsurprising you are white knighting yet another cause... judging by...