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You do know that unlocking a class doesn't unlock all its abilities, right? You still have to tier (level?) up each class unlocked to gain its full ability set.

Ya guys cuz WoW invented orcs amirite?

If I can make an extremely mobile (blink) pbAOE based healer with limited CC (stun/mez) I will be exceptionally happy.

Ok, I'm starting to equate SOE to an abusive girlfriend? Wtf is with that picture of EC Tunnel?... How can you treat me so badly but then turn around and tell me you love me?

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I am very aware that gaining class abilities is very similar to gaining abilities via leveling. My point is, this is in effect no different than a traditional level grinding system. The 'philosophy' they are trying to convince us that they are putting forth directly contradicts this. EQN...

If collecting classes is the 'purpose' of this game, it's gonna be a steaming pile of garbage... So ya...

I assumed their 'replay factor' was the advanced ai and ever changing dynamic world? There's certainly nothing revolutionary ('next') about class acquisition grinds.

Excuse me while I go slit my wrists

So wait wait... SOE makes a game without levels... But then makes class acquisition the new leveling scheme? In addition to tiers? The whole point of this world is no (or very few) boundaries. Ill be pissed right the fuck off if this game turns into another class acquisition game like Marvel...

Watched a video last night. I'm considering it lol

They better make this game hardcore as fuck to capture some of that neck beard market that EQN has decided to shit all over... Cuz when EQN gets released its gonna hammer this game into the dirt. If they make it the hardcore gamer's choice, they may just carve out a niche for themselves. If...

Ugh collecting classes would be like the least important thing for me in EQnext. It would be just as much of a chore as grinding levels. I wanna explore every inch of Norrath. I want to collect my ideal set(s) of gear. I wanna kill the biggest baddies and build a sweet house. I want to do...

Uhhh this community has been in active EQ/MMO discussion for going on 15 years. I think it's safe to say we all 'care' :P

Don't most f2p MMOs allow you to unlock classes with money? Why would EQN be any different?

PVE is gw2 levels of clusterfuck fail. no coordination. No need to even speak to your group. Gotta say though, I'm digging the first person mouse look stuff. Edit: I take it back, nothing is as bad as GW2 PVE

I just really hope I have the option to drop a year of sub money and buy all the classes. Really not interested in jumping through their bullshit hoops to load out my character how I want it loaded out. Marvel Heroes recently did this for $200 I think, and while I wasn't interested in dropping...

tad you need to stop making me think you have insider info about a potential spiritual successor to EQ1. If you get me excited and it doesn't happen, I will literally hunt you down and fuck your mouth in front of your family while wearing Kerran armour and eating Pizza Hut.

Oh no no I wasn't necessarily referring to your posts, I was just making a blanket statement about the visuals and people's opinions about them. The game looks amazing, and the continued debate is silliness at best. It detracts from discussions about the real issues the game has. Ya, that...

The game looks absolutely incredible. It's not even a fucking debate. Your preference may be for a realistic style, but that doesn't mean the art for EQnext is poor by any stretch of the imagination.

I'm pretty rustled nobody at SOElive asked about instancing or the economy.

I've been playing DOTA since your grandparents were in diapers sonny. I get it man... But original EQ... If you were an enchanter you were so vastly different from a cleric, or a warrior, or a monk it was basically a different game. Not so much with EQnext.

Know what stat I'd love? How many unique individuals have subscribed to any everquest product for more than a 3 month period? I bet it's easily multiple millions of people.

Oh don't get me wrong, I'm still gonna buy the game and play the shit out of it. I love Norrath and have purchased ever Everquest product released since the original (except late EQ/EQ2 expansions). The mere sigt of certain landmarks in the world will give me a raging nerd boner. They just...

Oh there will be a few exceptions I'm sure, but for the most part, differences will be minor and superficial. Movement abilities: Wiz blink: teleport 10m ahead of you. Warrior leap: leap 8m ahead, small aoe on impact. Ranger: slide 8m ahead, small stun on impact. Also, they have...

From a balance perspective, I agree. From a class identity perspective, it's gonna suck.

Pickling a hero at start screen is gonna be interesting. Picking a hero based on its 'class' abilities would be a very bad call IMO, and here is why: 1. Of primary importance will be hero selection based on DMG type (ranged vs melee). Since every hero can only have 2 weapon loadouts, this is...

Guys, stop calling them classes. They aren't. They're heroes.

Meh, I'm pretty pumped on EQN at this point, despite my disappointment regarding combat mechanics. I may just be experiencing said disappointment because I'm projecting GW2s failures on EQN without fully comprehending what their AI will supposedly do for encounters. If their AI is such that the...

The market that exists for a hypothetical EQ3 is already playing EQ1/2. Why would they cannibalize those games? Not gonna happen.

Keep it coming tad. You ae single handedly unrustling my jimmies

I'm getting that impression too... But if it's so far off, why are they already taking Beta sign ups?

Does anyone else wanna punch Darin McPherson in the nose, just because he constantly sounds like a fucking asshole?

Oh and there will probably be at least 2 starting cities. I don't think Dark Elves and High Elves are gonna start in the same place... Unless they have pulled some crazy shit with the lore.

If the PVP stuff is true, I am far far less sad.

You can't deny that, at the very least, they are going to redefine minimum standards in the genre.

One thing I've certainly noticed... Mr. butler wears the pants on this dev team.

Ya know, the more I'm watching these videos of SOE Live the more I can't help this one thought.... What the hell made them do the reveal of THIS game at SOE Live? The attendees are the most hardcore of their hardcore fans. People that have been playing everquest for years. Did they...

EQN will have the same minimum specs as planetside 2, I'd imagine. Perhaps higher recommended ones.

Cuz beta isn't for a long ass time and people might upgrade their rigs anyway :P