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Same answer, replace furry with gay.

Do you believe mike brown was born a thug, or his life turned him into one. Just because a person becomes what they are does not mean they were genetically born that way. We are a summation of life's experiences. Also, I believe my choice to be furry is just that, a choice. I can act and pass...

My answer is I don't know, and neither do you. As much as the hodj and his sciociology SJW crew of scientific feels would like to assert that it is, it's far from scientific fact. In my personal experience, there's a lot of shades of gayness. Some people just want to try it out, some people...

My love of freedom extends even to racist bigots. Not my fault you guys choose to hate them and try to force them to do what you think is morally acceptable.

It's a choice, as everything you do in life is one. It is a hateful choice yes, but one protected by the constitution. You as a person shouldn't be compelled to act to help people. Is it the choice I'd make? No, but I suspect its the one most of you would make. That person in the water could...

I'm more therianthropic than furry. Fossa is my animal.

The funny thing is I'm probably the gayest person in this thread, and I'm the only person who understand that I WANT to know which cake bakeries hate gays. There's a reason its okay for judges to recuse themselves from stuff. Forcing a faggot hater to make a cake for me could be the day they...

So its a choice when you agree with it, not a choice when you don't agree with it. Not only that, but these choices carry the weight of harmful action especially when you disagree with them. What should we do to those people who disagree with you? Perhaps we could move them to their own town...

Taking no action is not acting on your hate. You are the one who seems to insist that this situation is one that it isn't.

These people aren't choosing to act on their hatred. They are choosing not to act because of their hatred. You're comparison doesn't make sense.

When gays were stoned to death for being gay, were there inclined to be gay who chose not to be gay because of that threat of stony death? Societies acceptance of gaydom has made it easier to choose to be gay. Since I believe in freedom, I ultimately believe in a person ability to choose their...

He became a white ape of his own free will.

Everything in life is a choice. Fucking guys, fucking girls, being a furry, worshiping sky wizards, being a nazi. The biggest difference is how accepted your choices are by other people. You can either hate people for their choices, or accept them. People who try to control the choice of others...

Wasn't me. I said my opinion on the subject, but I didn't bring it up. I also didn't say anything to the sort. I believe medicine is a socialized industry, so socialized expectations of compelled service are more acceptable than in non-socialized industries. The military and government are other...

The hobby lobby case is the most famous case in recent memory about this, and the supreme court found that business do have the right to express their beliefs over law- so long as they are closely held. I'd really like to see how they'd rule on one of these cakegate cases. My guess is they...

He puts my gaydar at like 110%, and I'm a fucking gaydar sniper. I don't even need to google that shit to know he aint married (if he is, its fake).

Except... The choice of the people in these examples was to not do the work. I think you are the alien, sir.

What fun is slapping your cock against the meat patty when they'd probably like it.

I'll tell you my stance on gun control for your amusement or non-amusement. It is not entirely libertarian. I believe guns should be legal to have and carry almost anywhere. The only places they should be illegal are places where all people have been thoroughly checked to not have them for good...

So why not stand with that view. You need some asterisks with your current stance.

You're right, I think it should be perfectly legal to hate fags or any other group. I can not and will not support a law that compels obedience in the people. My line is clear and in the sand. Yours is blurry, and the SJW is starting to creep into your blood. Just like I think all things SJW...

So the KKK walks in to a family friendly restaurant. They then proceed to hold a rally there. Does the owner have the power to deny service? I would say yes, you would say no?

I honestly haven't read anything siddar has said, or anyone's responses to him, so I can't comment on them. Where exactly have you objectively proven anything I've said wrong? All my arguments in this thread have been subjective and moral, is it even possible to prove them one way or the other...

If you set up a system where work is required of them, they would be. It'll be interesting to see how this concept begins to apply to the internet over time. The SJWs are watching, and they will come after your websites and games. Game is released without their definition of equal...

I'm not supporting an idea that forces people to work, its just that they have to work or they're breaking the law, and they need to learn to deal with that. This is literally you're argument. I don't think a slave master in the south could of put it any better.

So what happens if they say no and don't work? Oh wait, they can't.

A definition of slavery:the subjection of a person to another person, esp in being forced into work You see to remove a person's right to say no to work. I'm okay with doctors being slaves in emergency rooms, but only because of the greater benefit to society. What greater benefit to society...

hodj logic

Procedural. The supreme court very rarely hears cases, even ones with merit, until there is a split in federal courts.

You realize that has to do with the state not being allowed to limit people's freedoms. There's not one letter in there about people compelling other people to do things. You telling people what to do is not your freedom, infact, its actually slavery in its purest form.

What's the federal statute for artists must make whatever art a gay compels them to.

But I'm not for these things? Lol. Like I said earlier, I am only for SOME of the parts of the civil rights act. Essentially, I support the parts that ended governmental discrimination.

A cake maker is told by a couple they want a gay cake. They are given one choice at gun point, to say yes. Is this a choice, is this freedom? No it isn't.

You know this is exactly the viewpoint I'm arguing from? I'm 95% libertarian. I only support the need of government to support major undertaking for society that individuals, groups or businesses are unwilling to do. Hence, I am okay with the military, the socialized health system we have, but I...

Lets just go back to slavery. At least they knew their service was compelled.

ur an idiot. Just because siddar is an idiot too doesn't make you right.

Right to free speech? I agree with you on some stuff, but ur wrong here. There are tons of positive rights. Freedom cant exist without your positive ability to experience it.

A bunch of people agree this is essentially an entirely different situation. You have the right to live- you don't have a right to receive the cakes you want. By repeating this over and over, do you think you'll convince people that the right to live and the right to have a cake are somehow...

pretty much spot on.

It's interesting to see the breakup of who supports what in this thread. It's a lot different than most threads. This is also a a really stupid argument. As I said earlier, I am more than willing to elaborate greatly on the concepts where government should decide morality- when freedoms overlap...