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As a fair and impartial observer i think you and Mik get on each others nerves so much and are so invested in calling each other retard, that neither one of you really do a good job of reading or digesting the other's posts.

Now see that is a great and valid question and really gets to the heart of the matter instead of spending 4 pages arguing whether Mao was or wasn't actually communist. I hope Dumar responds to it.

Bro, I agree with you that communism and all its past attempts are abject failures, no doubt about it. I'm just saying that your arguments aren't as air-tight as you like to think they are. Likewise, Team Commie's arguments aren't wholly without merit. Godamnit why is arguing over the...

I think you are confusing intentions with outcomes. I don't think Team Commie ever made the claim that Mao's or Stalin's INTENTIONS were anything other than Marxist, only that the OUTCOME was anything but. Huge difference there.

Spoiler it maybe? But it is an interesting question.

He wasn't speaking on Mao's inner mind, only the actions which, according to you are in accordance with Marxist theory, but according to Dumar and the leading scholar's on the subject weren't in accordance with Marxist theory. Why should I, as a neutral, objective observer to this battle royal...

If opinions don't matter, then why are you giving so much weight to Mao's opinion that he himself was a communist, despite the fact that his actual governance was completely contrary to ideals espoused by Marx that Dumar has been so generous in bringing to light?

That was a bloodless battle with an unconditional surrender. No way Hodj is going down without spilling lots and lots of blood.

Hahhah the 'is Kentucky in the South?' debate is going to be Hodj's Waterloo.

Garglechimp is from teh South?

Anyone that hates water parks probably hates America as well.

Hah me too! Taking calc this semster i take it? I've found it way easier than anticipated. I've gotta work through a few related rate and absolute/local maxima minima probs this weekend but nothing too taxing. O-Chem II on the other hand...

LOL, googling!? My entire family is from there, I go back often to play golf with my old bros and tell American Inventor jokes, and half my FB are okies. Okies are oilfield trash from the South, there is no doubt about it. The eastern half are your Arkansas-type hillillies and the western half are...

LOL. They wouldn't. I should know since i was born there and lived there for the first 20 years of my life. Okies most definitely consider themselves Southern. Get out of your liberal bubble bro!

Since Oklahoma wasn't even a state during the Civil War does that mean they can't be part of the South either?

Republicans freed the slaves after the War and the Democrats were the party of Southern, white, conservatives. Now those roles have reversed. Just like Kentucky starting off in the North and ending up clearly aligned with the rest of the 'true' south. A lot can change in 150 years. Funny...

I stayed up way too late watching Man of Steel. Thanks alot. Wasn't horrible though. So fucking tired of Supes origin story, but the super power stuff was pretty rad.

Texas has an openly gay mayor(Houston) and one of the most liberal cities in America (Austin), still a part of the South. Your argument is invalid.

Good call, downloading it now. Stringer Bell is never a token anything sir.

But see, I don't care what it's called or what system it falls under. Socialism, capitalism, communism, anarchism...i don't give a shit as long as I can watch The Walking Dead every week on my 50' LCD in the air conditioning while I stuff my fat face with cheetohs and Pepsi and have all my...

Don't take a hostage unless you are willing to shoot that motherfucker in the face.

Lol, no ones tricking me bro. I'm all in favor of some more wonderful socialism mixed in with my mountain dews and Monday Night Raw. But you can't can't go all in with it, just like you can't go all in with capitalism. Never go full retard.

Ya and that's where it comes off the rails for me.

Ya, but the point I think Marxists would make would be that if those people making the dildos weren't working for the man, but were instead working for themselves because the factory was owned by the workers running it, that would be their motivation for boxing up dildos eight hours a day...

Hahah It's hilarious because it's true.

No I agree that communism has been legitimately tried and it legitimately failed, Mao/Pol Pot/USSR, etc. I think the argument is that while its true that it has never existed in the way described by Marx, et al. at the level of the state, the REASON it has never existed at the level of the...

I do agree with bakunin that just cause someone called themselves commie doesn't necassarily make them commies when applying the definition of the word rather than the widely held perception of the word. See the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. I also agree with Mr T. that everyone...

You got the ball rolling, but then you tagged him in to do the heavy lifting.

Let me see if I have the gist of the two arguments. First of all, it seems HodjCo and Team Commie are arguing a side of two different topics rather than both sides of one topic, but since it's Hodj and Mik it turns into 8 pages of fallacy definitions and accusations, lol. HodjCo argue that...

Wish I had time to stroll over and see how the freepers are taking all this, I'm sure its defcon 1 over there.

I think the more appropriate term is that no one gave a shit what you believed, and still don't. Your allies in Congress will be soundly defeated and the country will begin to tack back to the left once the dust finally settles from this fiasco. In the meantime, the core demographic of the...

Lol. Good thing about the rickshaw is the garglechimps mostly stay away cause no edit.

Still better than pissing away four hours with the garglechimps.

If you can't keep your kids from being exposed to too much sexuality at an early age than that is a failing on your part. Equating my argument against government censoring the media to a guy jerking off in line at Dunkin Donuts only exposes the weakness of your argument not mine.

Sorry I got under your skin so much bro, no need to get all personal and shit yo. The internet's really not serious business, despite what you may have heard. But for the record I just turned 40 and yes I am wrapping up my BS this year and will start my masters next year. I'm a loser!

Thanks for proving my point. Well done sir. Where did you get 65 from btw? I'm curious.

Whelp, it's been a pretty good, vigorous debate without being shit on by the garglechimps, but if calling someone a giant faggot is your last line of defense then there's not much point wasting any more time going back and forth with you.

Bleh edit that last sentence out.

You have a kid and live in NY City now? Hmmm, ok. But you just answered your own question a couple posts ago. If you don't agree with the community standard then you will leave. Pretty simple. You're example of a gay guy walking around with his dong hanging only happens in communities who...

If you take your kid to a gay pride parade, without knowing full well he would be exposed to that nonsense, then you are an idiot. There's no involuntary exposure to the gay lifestyle going on there. It's 100% voluntary.