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Real women are smart enough to know it's implied, and they shouldn't have to ask. And that they might not get 100 bucks in cash if they ask, but will get a new fucking car if they don't ask and get pregnant and pretend they'll never complain about the trash knowing they sure as shit will, and...

A cheap high? I'm so confused by the points you think you're making.

I'm not sure what point you're making, becase street-walking heroin junkies are easier to find, cheaper, less drama, easier to ditch (in a ditch)... and forums are the ultimate place to brag anonymously about shit even nerds white-knighting will keep reading about. I remember that time I...

I suppose. At least Brad was kept on the Vanguard team? Wasn't Jacobs fired? After being unable to even make a game based on a VERY popular IP mediocre enough it lasted on name alone? That game was as technologically shittastic as Vanguard in my experience.

Imagine a year+ ago, heavyweight theorycrafting match, on the fight schedule: EQ vs DaoC McQuaid vs. Jacobs Old-school, group-based PVE game vs an old-school, group-based PVP game. I have no doubt we'd have predicted this going exactly the opposite way, to a man, than it has to...

EQ didn't know it was pvpeautiful, that's what made it pvpeautiful! That was the beauty of it. Story of my fucking life.

My approach had always been that I was pledging for the outside chance at seeing a game, but moreso for a front row seat to the MMO version of a demolition derby. That's not even fun now, because the only people buying into this project are so fucking delusional and fanatical it's boring. And...

I think the only modern advacement from EQ's death penalty should be: 1) Ghost floating over your corpse where you can turn and see what's going on, but can't move. Or you're just laying on the ground but can still see (so haven't 'released' your corpse ala Vanguard). Either way, let people...

It's a good thing Brad has said he wants Pantheon players to be rewarded for taking the path of least resistance!

It's not exactly new, though? Isn't it pretty similar to Vanguards? Which is fine. I just don't know I'd call it new mechanics. I also don't know why it took them so long to shit out a couple paragraphs on one of the foundational aspects of their game design and philosophy.

Having radar and dungeon finder are huge, philosophical decisions, not little mechanics. If they want them, they'll have them. It's not like they're suddenly going to be TESTING a fucking radar window and finding they just can't pull it off successfully with current tech. It's not like...

This is my last hope for a group-based, social mmoRPG. Remember when the RPG mattered, guys?!

Holy shit. Awesome! I mean.... I'll ummmm inform girls I know that may be excited about that movie.... ;/

I think we call all agree only idiots don't understand how a KS campaign is a representative sample of a larger group. That doesn't mean an oldschool/hardcore/group/whatever game would be a smash success, but there's more interest than the Pantheon abortion indicates. Actually, a good argument...

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Can I have your stuff?

Yep. And that skank at the bar is hot with the lights down, smoke in the air, and 10 shots of Jaeger under your belt. We'll see how EQN looks the morning after. Until then, though, you're losing every argument because all you're doing is repeating marketing hype and telling us how you hope...

It's been weird, to say the least, watching people defend Brad needing startup costs by basically fantasizing about what the game could be. Repeated for the millionth time. If they'd just focused on a pitch that they need help getting a studio set up with the intention of starting to build...

Exactly. And what we do know is for SOEemote to be noticeable, it means characters look like they've got lips swollen with collagen injections, giant alien eyes, and eyebrows on springs.

But, but, but, Darkfall just didn't do it right and didn't have the right AI. EQN is going to be the goose that shits the golden turd that changes the genre!

So, what's their grand solution? The King yells for help, all the mobs come, your group gets raped. Maybe you're right and the environment will come into play. Like your group will have to spend an hour Landmark-crafting a brick wall up at the doorway and the bard can paint it to look like...

Agreed. We CAN make statements about people, though. People will be playing EQN (people being a loose definition). People will fuck up whatever ingenious thing they think they've created. Combat mechanics and AI and environmental elements aren't holding back the genre, people are, and I...

You're comparing apples to being obtuse. The structure of the world vs. the combat mechanics. You basically want to create a wide open world where people feel they're freely making choices where and when to adopt the one role they've attached themselves to playing and are comfortable with.

Exactly. This is the problem. And then, with 4 man groups where anyone can potentially be any role, your average gamer's 'highest' performance is pretty low, and they don't want the responsibility of a real role, so the game just ends up too easy for anyone even slightly competent. Or it's...

I think I just got sick of getting to play a huge variety of styles in Rift...... only to end up always the healer on my mage because I was better at it and reluctantly agreed I'd rather not wipe constantly even if it meant I had to do the heavy lifting I didn't want to be doing. Shit, I ended...

So, instead of relying on a competent tank (or two) and a competent healer (or two) organizing a bunch of incompetent mouthbreathers, everyone is going to have to be highly competent on individual levels to succeed in EQN. It sounds great until the average gamer is your core audience and it's...

I don't like the 'you can be everything' syndrome in games because what it means is I'll have to be the one to constantly switch. It's like working a job where you're the one that knows how to do everything, which means other assholes will be lazy or their incompetence rewarded and you'll then...

I also didn't donate a thing. Come to think of it, nobody did, because not a single cent has been charged yet. You're still pretty hardcore, though.

I know, I know. I just still hoped it was an elaborate, cross-website hoax. How utterly embarrassing and pathetic. I mean on a basic, human level. I guess Ut called it, guys. :/

Just tried to go to twitter to see the Brad begging for myself (still can't believe it isn't a hoax #embarrassing #swampdonkey). So, from the Kickstarter I click on the twitter.... link? Nope, just a picture! For fuck sake. As one last hurrah, shall we all re-donate our pulled pledges...

More words! Are we sure this isn't going to be so old-school it's text based?!

We all know and see what the industry has become or is becoming. That's the sad thing, old friend. It wouldn't be hard to be an expert nay-sayer these days, and yet somehow you've still fucked that up. You've fallen from glory in what should be your time to reign as king of the nay-sayers...

I found third person in TESO to be so shitty I felt 'forced' to play in first, which made the game more fun, immersive, all that kind of thing. It wasn't too bad, but was still 'just a camera' sort of view with a lack of rendering and bouncing that doesn't bother me. My issue is that I want to...

Yeah, like it was on the line in the Pantheon thread when he back himself into a corner knowing he had the "I'll get banned if I defend myself" cop-out at the ready. That was the day all remaining respect and reputation for Ut was finally gone. It's like a Loony Toons episode where there's a...

Hoedown? Why, I never! You shameless brutes need to learn some refinement!

Clothesline her UP the stairs like a real man!

Your asshole also apparently burns from eating Taco Bell. I'm gonna go ahead and say people have isolated experiences in life......................... I've enjoyed some of their games, thought others were shit. I've seen some pretty shady behaviors (want an example? There were several...

Enter: Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen!!!

If you didn't like imbalances, then you clearly also didn't like EQ's pve. And I didn't say everyone rolled pvp. But those who did did so because they loved the model and do feel it's better than the pvp-in-an-instance we keep getting. Or maybe people don't like fast, rear-wheel drive...

I don't want to grind mobs. I just don't want mobs to die with little or no effort on my character that I don't put any armor on and don't upgrade any spells/abilities. Maybe the mobs get tougher later, but early on it's clear they want mobs to be a minor speed-bump in reaching the next arrow...