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I don't know if people realize this, but launch EQ alone was pretty damn huge - and that was after they cut lots of zones. 15 cities (some of which were multi-zone) and like 50 other zones. For a small MMO world at launch, look more to FFXIV:ARR's size, but hopefully with more variation between...

If you enjoy playing with legos, you'll probably like Minecraft. If you can only play with legos if you have an instruction sheet, you'll probably not like Minecraft.

Heh, that too!

I'm pretty sure everyone that bothers to post in this forum, that has expressed concerns or outright negativity towards Brad, would love to be wrong - Gecko included.

While I'd say calling it a fluke is way over the top, it was definitely a perfect storm of timing and other factors as well. But to call it a straight-up fluke is short-changing all the effort put in by the designers and developers, that were also part of that perfect storm.

Correct.

As long as it has SOEmote, we're good.

The poll options are horrible yet again, too. They're not exactly exclusive.

I miss the days when you could play a MMO and public chat channels and all discussion of it wasn't related to how much better some old MMO did it or how it copies every other MMO. (Not really, that's the best part!)

That video is bad, but still not as bad as the 13 minute video from SE about a LFG tool: FFXIV Developers - YouTube At least they have the excuse of "Many FF players are new to MMOs".

It's a new IP guys. Everguard: Vanquest of Destiny's Heroes.

There is only one server. VG pretty much gets praised for it's class design - they're supposed to all be excellent. Apparently rogue and something else are harder to solo (warrior?), but every class can do it. Disciple and Dread Knight are known as the best solo'ers. Everything in between can...

Yeah, I didn't say there was *no* info, but what's out there pales greatly to resources for WoW of course, but even lesser MMOs like GW2, LOTRO, etc. And what's out there is often out of date. For example - I was wondering how URT rewards compared to HL rewards. You can find some of that info...

It's not even that it's just king of the hill - it's still obliterating any and all competition. It's "closest" are probably Aion or Runescape, of which it has more than 3 times the amount of people - that's a difference of over 4 million people. That's not a gap anyone's going to close.

For anyone else interested in VG's downfall, for more insight into Brad, I'd really recommend reading this interview as well: F13.net - Usefully Cynical Commentary The Hub of All Blame: A Postmortem Edit: Oh, and here's the report from the dude being fired. Good read from the other...

Unfortunately most links are to Brad's site, and he's since nuked it. But we have a copy here on the forums!Vanguard - Free. Brown. Bitches love free brown shit. - Page 10

Logged back in the other day, and last night hit 20 on my Disc finally, hah. After over a year at 19. Playing VG is interesting - it's probably the only MMO by a big company that you can't just find out everything about it on the internet, because noone cares enough to have any all-inclusive...

GW2 is well worth the purchase price. I only got the 40s before I got bored, but it's a fun game with a great attention to detail. If you're looking for a MMO that's the next logical evolution of the WoW model, GW2 is it - no annoying quest text, running back to the quest giver, no...

...dude, thank you. You just unlocked some memories that I had seriously forgotten all about. Wow.

The problem is the terms casual and hardcore. It means different things to different people. Both casual and hardcore can describe people playing 60 hours a week in an MMO.

FWIW, read Brad's VG postmortem. He explicitly calls both of those as mistakes they made, at least. Of course, you can't completely ignored graphics - first impressions and all that. But there are ways to cut corners on it so it's acceptable, but not horrible. A consistent art style can help...

It's $30, and many of us got it for $22.50 on GMG with a 25% off coupon. I didn't sub, but it's was definitely worth my $22.50. It's a lot of fun and very enjoyable.

Almost everyone playing EverQuest, which is why WoW had exactly those features (everyone solo, dying has little consequence).

Players around 2003 too would have told you they just wanted a game where you could solo to the end and dying wasn't a big deal - doesn't mean it's been great for the MMO genre as far as quality, impression-making gaming. Sure made a shit ton of money though.

I know you weren't asking my opinion - but I'm going to give it anywhos! In all these MMO threads, people talk about what they want - design wise, VG has almost all of it. It's seriously similar to classic EQ in most regards. -No instances -Fully open world -Focus on grouping and...

I think it's hard to have pretty scenery in a game that's mostly centered around progression without thinking "this is a waste of space", as most MMOs are. I get what some people are saying though, if done right, it can have a good effect. But what you end up with is 10 forests with bears or...

I hate for it to be another "I like how EQ did it" but...I liked how EQ did it. It was mostly a black and white "are you a good or evil race", sure, but there was still a lot of gray area (like NFP vs EFP/WFP). I liked how it worked so that some cities were dangerous to you, and some guards, but...

I bet you could throw footballs over mountains too. But you know, you can't be arsed to go buy a football. Yeah, I broke out a Napolean Dynamite reference. I mean, I get that you're passionate, but holy shit man, do you ever realize how crazy you sound? Like you estimating opportunity cost...

I don't think you can combine "makes a profit" with "total fuckup". That's all most companies (or their publishers) give a fuck about. It's soulless people all the way through. They fit the mold. It sucks, but that's the world. If the games they lead made their money, what do they care if fans...

Uh, it's not "like" that, it IS that. It's exactly that. Tmac - they have housing, but I think it's restricted to a certain area or something? I don't believe you can just put a house wherever you feel like it.

Too right. On paper, a lot of that even sounds like what EQN is going for - malleable world that reacts and changes. But we all know they'll stop short - it'll always end up going in that one main direction. It won't be dangerous. And there will never be REAL dangers or consequence. Hopefully...

Face it, Flex. We'll never get characters again that look how they should according to Lore. They will always be supermodels showing tons of skin for their "war outfits". It's a new MMO rule - all avatars must make at least 90% of users want to fuck them.

What if that game was named "Guns and Ninjas: The MMO"? I mean, I think it'd be pretty fitting for it to have guns and ninjas. Also it sounds fucking awesome. I hear it has guns, AND ninjas. As long as the ninjas can't hold the guns, that'd just be fucking stupid, and I'm already canceling my...

Honestly, the most enjoyable part of the game was running each dungeon the first time and the main storyline. Adding more stuff to grind over and over to get more +1 Death of Dying Thing wouldn't fix that. I mean, I've done the endgame grind in MMOs before, I know what it is, it's just not that...

Most of this continues the "well, we totally got all this stuff on like, I think we're up to 25 napkins now, it's crazy!" but nothing concrete or specific to talk about or show. I'm guessing at this point we won't even get EQ:NL this year, or even a beta for it.

You're surprised that big companies all just copy/paste the same thing for the most part? That's your evidence that it's all that "works"? Honestly, horrible things like only counting AAA titles is hardly fair for a discussion talking about possible ways to fix a solution. As is assuming that...

Those are not the only two options out there.

Yes it is cut and dry, and you misread it pretty bad. The real issue is people not being able to play with their friends due to class choice, or being forced to play with non-friends due to class choice. The goal is to make grouping required, but it should be with people you like. Tough to...

I said CC in the first couple of days of FFXIV in a pug and people had no clue what I was referring to.