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I like crossfit, they just need to shift more towards the barbell lifting for strength spectrum. I hate the lingo, the complex lifts for time and some of the over zealous people. On the other hand they teach the squat, cleans and other oly lifts and that puts them above all the globo gyms by...

Actually I do Wendler's 5/3/1. The stones are supplemental conditioning. How about you.

Hah. Ironically tonight I will belifting up very large rocksand putting them down at the gym after lifting. To be fair if you're morbidly obese pretty much anything is going to work, especially combined with exercise. He could go the opposite way and do a vegan diet and probably lose weight...

I didnt bring lunch today so I had to eat out. I was pleasantly surprised with this from the local Portuguese place: Beef ribs, 1/2 roasted chicken, broccoli, carrots and cabbage. I passed on the cabbage but the rest was really good.

Jesus that is crazy. Were you like super helicopter over protective dad after that? I think I would be. I already have to watch myself to let the kids be kids and not over protect. I think my wife has a "fell through a screen" story too from when she was a toddler. You'd think I would...

That one to me calls into question "low carb" part of all this and points more to sugar being the big issue. A lot of Paleo people are into the Ketosis/Low Carb thing and I still believe that's only good short term for fat loss. I only go low carb when I'm cutting. I think Paleo proponents...

Similarly if you're going to tell me butter will kill you, or like the Time cover eggs will kill me, and we find a group who eats more butter and they are doing better than we are in the area you target, why should I believe you? This is the problem with observational studies. These people...

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It is based on nutritional science the question is who do you believe. Do you believe for example that as Dr Aychamo says butter is "bad fat"? Do you buy the saturated fat > higher cholesterol > heart disease? If so how do you explain the lack of consistency in that theory? The French eat 4...

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...cience/308269/

We looked at some guys food records for 4 days? Look up confounding variables and observational studies, doctor.

I like the big bag of veggies. You just steam them or what? You can get coconut oil online at iherb.com. Not sure on the butter I just use regular. I never used iherb but I've had people tell me it's a good site. I cant remember what store I got mine at right now, wasnt whole foods or...

Yeah, one egg is like 6 or 7 grams of protein. Almonds are great for the fat, same with yogurt and feta. I'd definitely add some chicken but run a sample day through Fitday.com and see what the numbers are and post it.

Ironically he's trying to gain weight.

Are you vegetarian? You need more protein in there in any case.

Going back to what constitutes eating healthy, a post from someone on another forum in the fitness thread:

Eating unprocessed stuff is definitely more expensive and more so if you cut out grains. Then if you want grass fed organic you can tack on even more $$$. Plus you have to cook a lot and go food shopping more often because fresh produce and meat will spoil quickly. Still, you can buy in...

It really would be low carb without the fries.http://www.fiveguys.com/menu/nutriti...formation.aspx Bacon cheeseburger x2 with some broccoli and done for the day.

You'll lose weight yes. Fat I dont know but weight yeah. Actually that would probably be pretty low carb if you pass on the fries. You'd probably be sick of it pretty fast too. I think the guy in Fathead did something similar. I'll look. Yeah here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_Head

Oatmeal and rice no. I will say that I ate oatmeal with berries and grapes every morning for years and now I switched to eggs and vegetables. Eggs and veggies i think are an improvement. Less hunger, more nutrition. Is a bowl of oatmeal now and then bad, not in my opinion. If you're an...

Both of these are true. Olives are a good example of a relatively recent food that requires some processing. The difference as I understand it is as simple as olives are good fit for us and wheat is not. Again that's if you buy the whole wheat > gluten/lectin > high carb small package insulin...

Eat less what? Any food at all or are there restrictions? What are you suggesting the results will be from that. You're using diet in the sense of someone looking to lose fat, and that's not even a good suggestion for those people. If you keep eating food that raises your blood sugar...

Tech is one thing, it's synthetic and man made from inception. Food started to get fucked once scientists broke it down to it's base elements then tried to improve a naturally occurring item. It's juice, but we're adding more calcium and enriching it with vitamins. Or we're removing the fat...

I dont know about compared to olive oil, but I'm convinced butter is much better than margarine or any of those simulated spreads. Both of which were pushed as a healthier option by Rolex wearing doctors. Back to the French Paradox thing, they use twice as much butter and eat a lot more...

Butter and olive oil yes, technically milk isnt paleo but depends who you ask. I drink milk post workout. And if you want to get really strict, they strongly recommend grass fed butter or ghee, which is clarified butter... I've never tried it personally...

This is getting pathetic now aychamo. More so if you are a doctor. I dont know why it's so upsetting to you that the study I posted concluded what the study said it concluded. Long diatribes and declarations of victory dont change the facts. I literally cut and pasted the conclusion from...

More reason to be aware of what you're eating and what you're told is healthy: http://www.preventdisease.com/news/1...-Disease.shtml

That's another interesting part of all this. Up til about my mid 20's I could eat everything and anything and stay very lean. Now it takes effort. If you watch the Fathead documentary or his lecture here:http://www.fathead-movie.com/index.p...fiasco-speech/he mentions insulin resistance that...

And can you piece together why more data is needed? I think it might just be because... "The conglomeration of data from 16 studies with CHD as an endpoint and 8 studies with stroke as the endpoint showed no association of dietary saturated fat on disease prevalence after adjustment for...

Good to hear. Have you ever tried adding back grains to see how you felt? I'm more than convinced on the sugar part of the equation, and all the processed foods that sugar and HFCS finds it's way into. Grains I'm sort of mixed. I definitely buy into the processed whole wheat bread being...

Update on where I am in terms of this, I'm down in weight without counting any calories and not ever feeling hungry. Right now weighing in at 194, down from 202. It's been slow and steady over about 2 weeks. I'm technically not cutting yet, I'm still lifting heavy and doing Wendlers 5/3/1 ...

I've decided you're simply an idiot so consider this my final effort to help you shit up this thread. I posted it for some content on the new boards and to generate discussion, not mindless contrarian semantic argument. You regurgitate the latest findings as gospel without thought or rationale...

Michael Pollan: http://michaelpollan.com/interviews/...ks-food-myths/

At this point I'm not sure if you're trolling or what. If you read my post bringing up the study I specifically phrased it as a question. Meaning there is some evidence that saturated fat is not causal in relation to cardiovascular health. You then admit not all saturated fats are bad...

A couple of dinners. Beef and chicken shish kebob with peppers and tomatoess Simple salad with some home made greek bifteki:

Couple of quick examples of what I'm eating. Salad with fresh mozarella, spinach, romaine, pine nuts, yellow grape tomatoes, and raspberries. Id' have a bit of protein along with that like chicken or steak: Eggs spinach, bell peppers and grape tomatoes.

You havent posted anything long or short that is more than vague assertion. It's just a sort of generalized rant. You claim that there "Plenty of research and expert opinion to show that it's absolutely among the worst of the fad diets to follow". If you want to claim that then show me why...

None of which changes the fact that "A meta-analysis of prospective epidemiologic studies showed that there is no significant evidence for concluding that dietary saturated fat is associated with an increased risk of CHD or CVD" As far as low carb high carb; all meaningless to me. I care...

Can you site one? I've seen the US News ratings of different diets and it's based on US government standard which I think are complete crap. http://health.usnews.com/best-diet/paleo-diet The US recommended diet, brought to you by the Department of Agriculture. The other issue they usually...

Wolf pushed that idea as well but this was a very recent post by him this past December. So he is challenging it. There are different versions because nutrition is still a cluster fuck in my opinion. The past 30 years have been a big joke when it comes to what we are told we can and should...