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I'm not mad about the personal stuff. I'm just saying it's anecdotal.

This line of argument doesn't have anything to do with gender differences in occupational choices. Absolutely no one is saying that humans don't have any biologically driven behaviors. No one ever made that argument. It's that no one has ever shown how relatively small gender differences in...

It's still personal when you bring specific personal traits into a scientific argument. I didn't say it was mean or unfair, I just meant it wasn't scientific.

You're arguing the wrong point again. I specifically said that humans have a powerful biological urge to model same-gender behaviors. But that doesn't make the behaviors themselves biological. As I said before, if you raise a boy in an environment where all the men are prancing around in pink...

I never ever said that. This is the first thing I said: There are of course gender-specific structural differences in the brain, and I never said there weren't. But there's also compensatory structures within the brain designed specifically to counteract those structural differences in the...

If we're going to start getting personal, technically I've made out with a bunch of girls who were mostly straight/bi and had a lot of bad experiences with men. I'm completely uninterested in having actual sex with anyone (would have made an exception for Olivia Wilde but now she's not aging...

You're the one that linked 4 completely irrelevant articles because they came up on a google search, and 2 that were related but easily refuted.

I have a literally off-the-top-of-the-scale Perceptual Organization Index score on the WAIS. Why? Because my mommy didn't discourage me when I played with blocks and Legos and Erector sets and model rockets instead of dolls.

So a study that samples only psychology students is a broad sample? That's LITERALLY THE INTRO TO PSYCH RESEARCH METHODS EXAMPLE OF A SHITTY SAMPLE IN THE ALL FUCKING PSYCH RESEARCH METHODS TEXTBOOKS. I'VE TAUGHT THAT FUCKING CLASS. WHOS THE FUCKING RETARD NOW?

First study doesn't even make any biological connections. It's just a statistical observation of gender differences with no mention of biological connections at all. The word biology only shows up in number of teaching hours per academic subject. Last study is neutral on the biology issue...

Again, adult brains. Where's your evidence that those changes weren't the result of a lifetime's worth of conditionally rewarding the development of certain skills and behaviors?

Because you responded positively to them every time they acted like boys and not at all or negatively every time they acted like girls. You probably weren't even conscious of it, but you definitely did. Children's brains are very good receptors of even the subtlest of incoming information...

This conclusion is still just a fucking guess put there by the researcher. They would actually have to identify a biological mechanism by which a causal relationship occurs to come to such a conclusion.

Okay, here's how science actually works. The documentary stated that women are biologically more suited towards empathy-related occupations. Multiple people also echoed that, because it 'feels' right from everyday experience. But it's not even slightly true. We KNOW from scientific...

If you want a really nice system wait for X99/Haswell-E in September.

This show needs dragons. Dinosaurs or pirates would be a decent substitute.

This is not playing in IMAX in Providence. My life is fucking ruined.

Again, we're not talking about physical tasks. If we were talking about the efficiency of physical tasks, there would be more male nurses and more female computer programmers, because being a nurse requires a whole lot more physical work than being a computer programmer. We're talking about...

Never once said that. Again constructing strawmen to easily attack. Might want to do something better with your time, because you fucking suck at constructing a logical argument.

We've gotten this far alright. It can't just be all momentum and biology. Something's going on in that meatsack we call a brain. Well, for some of us.

The problem is that no university IRB will give you approval to do these kinds of experiments because they're unethical. So in order to get any information about them you have to start digging into Lumie-lizardman territory. There's the very oldLittle Albert experiment - Wikipedia, the free...

It's stilljust sex.We're still not talking about forebrain functions or occupational choices. I was never arguing that human beings have no instincts whatsoever or that biology doesn't influence ANY human behaviors whatsoever. That was an argument that people pinned onto me as an extremely...

Where is the DIRECT evidence of biologically driven gender roles? It does not exist anywhere. Whereas I can show decades of direct evidence that you can condition anyone to do just about anything you want, so long as you've got the time and you setup the right incentives. And, you know...

My big problem with current neuroscience is that they get these fMRI scans and compare them to each other and show a certain amount of activity in a certain part of the brain and saying thats indicative of something. That would be like taking the cover off two computers, a modern Intel i7 CPU...

This whole argument started from a documentary where they brought two studies with some correlational data from PSYCHOLOGISTS who did nothing to actually look at the underlying biology, merely made some observations and correlations and then did some magical handwaving and stated that because...

Yes. The argument of most behaviorists is that basically ALL OF SOCIETY is pervasive operant conditioning, and that all social problems are rooted in rewarding the wrong behaviors and not rewarding the right ones. With enough operant conditioning, you could make anyone do just about anything...

The problem with popular science journalism is that it doesn't bother to tell you how MUCH different? How MUCH larger is the corpus callosum? Just how much larger does it have to be to account for suddenly liking a dick in the ass? Regardless, being gay is not an occupational choice! (Well...

It's not evidence against. It does nothing to refute the hypothesis. And what part exactly is evidence-free? That behavior modelling and incentive/reward/reinforcement schedules are powerful enough to reshape human behavior? There's 70 fucking years of easily reproducible behavioral...

Again, adult brains. Also correlational. Maybe being gay caused their brain to develop that way, rather than their brain being that way caused them to be gay? Or maybe a third factor caused both. You don't seem to understand what "correlation does not imply causality" means.

Just because it could be one cause doesn't mean it's the only possible cause. A variety of different things could make any given person gay.

When I said few people would choose to be gay I was referring to the constant, incorrectly constructed "choice" vs "born that way" binary. There are actually plenty of other options besides those two. You could not be born that way but life experiences could alter your sexuality. Or you could...

If I had to make some guesses I'd say a few abnormally wired circuits in the brain cause them to model/emulate the "incorrect" observed gender roles and sex behaviors. Trying to be PC but clearly transgender/homosexuality is not normal functioning behavior. It's maladaptive by definition...

You're the idiot who can't tell the difference between an illustrative metaphor and actual evidence for an argument. The brain IS a bunch of meat cells, and every function does is biological at it's basis. But as high level computer code is a powerful method of changing the internal state of...

Newegg was a lot more fun when I had 2 years of a free Shoprunner account. Now shipping takes forever (where forever is like 4 days instead of the next morning.)

Gordon and his wife are really the only interesting characters. Joe is just way too over the top, and Mack gets only slightly more tolerable.

No, there aren't, and no one said gender roles were BAD. My argument was that gender roles are largely socially driven/incentivized/enforced rather than the result of biological urges.

I have a degree in computer science too (an AS and most of a BS) and worked in IT for 6 years. I was going to be a computational neuroscientist until I got stuck taking care of my mom and unable to transfer to a school that isn't garbage. You're an idiot. Binary-mode punch cards were still...

You can't get rid of the underlying instinct, but you can use language in order to impart in someone else the ability to override it. Which is the opposite of what you said. You said no amount of language can override it.

This is like saying "Human brains are made of meat, therefore everything is purely biological." That's blatant handwaving. As a metaphor, everything a computer does is in binary, but we don't code in binary and interface with computer by typing 1s and 0s into it and reading 1s and 0s off the...

But that's irrelevant to the discussion. They still have societies and socially incentivized gender roles.