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Lore matters. And I've already covered my issues with the management of the product, you must have missed those posts.

I don't know what this means really but if EQ Next is the future I'll stick to my cave and stone wheel. Well unless storybricks is super duper. My biggest objection to Pantheon is the lore is so meh. Take eq/vg mechanics and stick it on some lore other than generic high fantasy. Or, if...

FF11and WoW were both technically EQ clones and they did ok at release.

Why would you think that?

No we wouldn't. We all have very different ideas of what would be our ideal MMO so these discussions only really work when we're slamming or contrasting a third party mmo. The more hypothetical that third party mmo the better.

VG Paladin had defensive rescues, which was a lovely combat mechanic.

Isn't it the presale of 1/3rd of a finished product? Didn't they split it the content into 3 sections, yada, yada, yada? Anyway point is that, as others have said, they should have run a kickstarter for the kickstarter. Raised 100k just to develop enough content to actually hold a real...

Also @Vandyn People have mentioned Vanilla WoW many times, in many threads and Quinloe's quote is pretty representative of the responses. Vanilla WoW got many things right and, most importantly, had a harsher XP curve and less quests so you couldn't just quest to level, which meant it was...

I'd have gone with idiot.

okay 1600 people have signed up for a crap kickstarter with very little pre KS publicly. What's your point again?

Dude I'm talking about money raised. Try reading comprehension.

It was mostly stupid so I ignored it but since you brought it up again As to point 1: Dear Mud fanboi everybody copied from AD&D And as to point 4: 200k with a crappy kickstarter suggests there are more than enough old school people to fund a game with a better kickstarter.

No idea

Terrezas is the worst producer vg or eq have had. Clueless.

Thom? Thom Terrezas? Is that who you are talkin' 'bout?

I wouldn't say "discouraging" - more like "aspirational" that is the template Brad and co should have been aiming for. We would've been discussing what stretch goal they'd reach not whether they'd get funded.

who the fuck are you and why are you shitting up this thread? @etchazz I think everyone should be in at 20 or 45 just to show support for old school ish MMOs. If it looks like they're close on day 38 or 39, I'd up the pledge not because I think they can deliver but again, just to show the...

Gender is anything but a "precise and accurate" word. /rerail @etchazz they need to do a full reveal of what they've got and where they're going - I backed down my pledge level - nothing screams "buy a lifetime sub that you're unlikely to use."

Gender = a pretty meaningless word, so yeah.

No

I don't believe so. That's why a lot of other KS tiers are so plain English: you get X + Y + Z. Again, they needed to research this shiznit before hopping on the KS bandwagon.

I'd be pissed if I was the 10k pledge. He's not eligible for the 2k Crown.

Eh. I don't hate it, but it is frustrating when you think that a little research could have gone a long way.

My MMO will have shit ripped off from pretty much everything. So it'll be awesome.

It's an IQ Test Tier. Tricksy Brad, very very Tricksy.

Lol. I'd take that bet but you wouldn't pay off

Holy Shit. You can get an actual sword in the Kingdom Come kickstarter at the UKP 600 level. Now that's serious swag.

Vodka >> Beer for sarcastic internet posts. IMHO of course.

I don't doubt his drive, just his management skills :-) Long term I'm worried about the Beta - AFAICT they're not planning for a paid beta so I keep seeing Vanguard all over again: forced to release buggy and early because of lack of funds. I would feel much more comfortable about this whole...

Current derail is rickshaw worthy

Your Y chromosome would like to talk with you.

To bad Square never tried to fix the UI for PC. I'd be up for rolling on a FFXI progression server with a fixed UI if such a thing were to ever exist.

Quest grind was boring. Little child race was awful. FFXI was the better game, too bad it had a horrible UI.

Rather see a new ip, though underwhelmed by the current lore.

meh if true.

From December 31st or so: It's almost like I know what I'm talking 'bout. Why then did I up to my pledge since I've had doubts about Brad's management skills since day 1? As I keep repeating, there are broader concerns than just Pantheon. If Pantheon fails to launch, but gets over a certain...

Brad should combine with Project Gorgon. They're using unity and have server code and Sandra Powers is a serious Producer.

it's an evolution of the lotro achievement system. It sounds ok to me. But as mentioned this is the stuff that should have been in from the beginning.