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Think of it as a mercy killing, she needed to be put down anyways.

That's really it though, nobody really wants them to fail, everyone here would love to see an amazing MMO that we can play for 10+ years that beats our wildest dreams. People want a great MMO to play, if anything fails here it's because they failed themselves by not preparing properly and taking...

This is and isn't true at the same time, you would be hard pressed to get anyone disagreeing that playing dance dance revolution, mashing a button rotation, watching procs, and trinkets, and boss mechanics was harder than hitting auto attack and waiting 15 minutes for the Avatar of War to die...

The reason some of the negativity as you put it is needed is to counter balance the misplaced positivity that some are putting forth. There are some people who would love to sweep every mistake about Brads past, and all the shortcomings of this Kickstarter under the rug and only focus on the...

I know that is the target audience but maybe that shouldn't be the only audience.

You are right they need to lay it all on the line, but really things like enchanter skills, or in game swag, it's going to influence anyone but the hard core nerds, mainly those of us here. Pantheon has to appeal to people who maybe never played EQ or Vangaurd before. Someone suggested a...

So reading through the last few pages people are suggesting the tiers be different than and the new $25.00 tier is good, maybe they should offer better in game rewards, maybe the $250 +1 dollar lifetime is good, then again someone who can pledge $250 for a possible game might not be so worried...

You got that backwards 1pm PST is 4 pm EST

This is very true, it's both a good and bad thing sometimes to focus on a niche group. The good thing is they support you implicitly and that's why he was able to get the pledges that have come in so far without much to show, the bad thing is that group is rather small. The only way he will be...

I might even give a fuck it you contributed to the thread but oh well.

The 10 devs and their wives all make an account and pledge a few thousand each knowing that they will get it back in 3-4 weeks when the kickstarter fund clears. It would be kind of shady and require a bit of effort to get done, I mean if really motivated Brad could make 20 accounts on his own...

She does quite a bit of game related work so it is possible, even so unless she couldn't talk about it via some sort of contract reason it would still be worth wild to reach out to her. If she couldn't promote him directly maybe he could join on of the table top game blogs for a day and get this...

You say that but that's pretty much what's happening already. This $800k kickstarter is for funding the setup and foundation of this game. There will be another kickstarter or two before the project is completed or they will have to seek out investors. Obviously seeking out investors is much...

Now you are just making shit up.

Oh really? What were my original estimates? Jesus you American Inventors love to bandwagon shit without even reading posts, I have said plenty of positive shit about the idea and offered suggestions for improvement, not everything I say is bashing this game in spite what some dipshit posters would have you...

Did you even look at their Kickstarter though? Republique by Camouflaj + Logan by Camouflaj Kickstarter There is a world of difference between the two.

It it doesn't get funding it will put it in the bottom 19% of shittiest kickstaters.

Sounds like you forgot about the 360 degree cleaves of BC.

Sounds like you want some sort of made for TV Lifetime Special.

No you can pretty much try again right after if you really wanted and even put up the same Kickstarter, it does go through a small review window from Kickstater itself but you aren't required to wait a specific length of time.

Yeah I was all for taking down the Kickstarter at first and had they done that in the first couple of days they might of been able to regroup and check back in a couple of months. That was before they reached out and got a ton of exposure through outside sources. All of these interviews and...

He will either go this way on this Pantheon site. or the "WILL MAKE MMO's FOR CASH" route like this. Both will probably come to a 2nd kickstater down the road.. They already said they would prefer to do multiple rounds of crowd sourcing cash than go to a publisher. Those guys ask...

Yeah ex-fucking-actly, tell me about how crazy shit that happened while putting this together, tell me about the zone that never made it into EQ, tell me about what inspired you to get into MMO's in the first fucking place. Sell us on your fucking "Vision(tm)" at least then it's fucking...

The same thing we've been expecting for 675 fucking pages, any hint of professionalism, any glimmer of hope in this ocean of shit they call a plan. People expect to see a game because they are hyping Pantheon the game.. look at the Kickstarter page whats the name on it? Fucking Pantheon the game...

This is just more of throwing shit at a wall to see what sticks. Twitch could be a good medium for them to use but at least try and make it entertaining. I would rather watch these guys play a marathon session on P99 while adding commentary and explaining how different parts of EQ came to be.

At least they didnt delete it like Bliz did

Do they have one now? If so can we get a link?

As much as this might help it could backfire on them if they do it like everything else. (poorly planned and half assed) It could be very cool to see some ingame footage, classes, zones, features but unless they came out looking pretty top notch I don't think many people would be that forgiving...

I have been tempted to do this as well. It could be rather fun, but also seems like a hassle.

Awesome list Troy, thank you for listening to all of that, and posting it. I threw it all together so people who might have missed it seems like a fair bit of information. I still think it could be useful stickied somewhere. They need to stop only doing it in long ass radio interviews and Q&A...

Crowd sourcing out music could be a pretty inexpensive and brilliant idea, if they have a large enough fanbase with the talent to pull it off.

Thanks for posting this kind of stuff, is it possible we could get a complied list of all these updates and specifics in some sort of Sticky at the front of this game, since I doubt they will add it to their Kickstarter.

Almost all of the so called hate and vitriol has been over the KS and lack of design decisions. There have been a few bitching about Vanguard but even that is relevant to this discussion. Really some of you just see a different opinion than your own, see red and go off the deep end like they are...

Fixed that for ya, stop speaking like anything you are saying is fact in a game that is just ideas on a fucking white board. Brad McQuaid is a motherfuckin brilliant MMO motherfuckin GENIUS Yeah we all get it you think he can do anything from his garage on a shoestring budget. If so then...

Oh shit did they post some concrete information about what they had planned? Or maybe you snuck a peak at Brads secret design docs? Or is it possible you are just talking out your ass again? When he talked about X-server of course people are going to think WoW you know the fucking MMO that...

Love it or hate it but I do kind of miss trains to zone, Black Burrow, Unrest, and Karnor's castle being some of the biggest offenders if I can remember. When shit when down in these places it could fuck up everyone's day in the zone if they weren't careful, that element of danger was awesome...

This is correct, BoT for a while was a pretty fun place to XP in, you could get Ornate patters, runestones, and parchments pretty easy. Then when they opened the flood gates the fucking trains to zone and the safe area at the start of that instance were nonstop. Thankfully, by this time most...

I always felt this had more to do with LDoN, LoY, and GoD being shit, LoY should of been a patch with all little it provided and how piss poor it was and GoD was untuned, untested, and unfinished complete fucking garbage.. Most of the people I knew quit for FFXI for a few months at this time...

Brad did some interviews and put out a 50minute video.. Talked to some fat internet hero for some Youtube exposure. Still making shit up as they go along, so they mentioned X-server stuff, people lose there collective shit.. Kickstarter still limp dicking along like a horse with a broken leg...

I know everyone thinks that Kickstarters just get a massive jump at the end but again that usually isn't due to a flurry of money coming in from supporters. Often it's the case that the person who started the Kickstarter or someone affiliated with the person listing tossing in the cash. I...