I decided after some googling that I'm not even going to try to navigate the mess that is the Penn State lawsuits.
Apparently some civil suits were dismissed, while others are still active, and there's still a criminal conspiracy case.
Right, you're actually backing up my point. The school has full control over it's own law enforcement agency, and is opting not to enforce the law.
You're right in that they're probably not legally liable.
I'm not blaming it on the alcohol. I'm blaming it on school administrations for letting the drinking happen, and the drinking is why the rapes (and also 'rapes') are happening.
It would seem more logical than the feminists saying its because all men are rapists.
Dealing with the fact that professors can't teach their students is my job.
They turn a blind eye to the cheating culture because if their students failed even more it would make them look bad.
Whether the campus has its own law enforcement agency (which ours do, and basically all large campuses do, regardless of where their legal authority actually comes from) is completely pointless to the fact that campuses are not enforcing FEDERAL law, aka, the drinking age.
Nope, you're wrong. It's adepartment of the university, in the EXACT same way that the Boston Police Department is a Department of the City of Boston.
The URI and Brown police forces are not members of the state police force, and they're not town police, and there are no county police or...
Because you fucking say so?
Brown University Department of Public Safety - About the Department
"The Brown Department of Public Safety is a fully-accredited police department through the Commission on the Accreditation of Law Enforcement Agencies (CALEA), which administers a rigorous...
What the fuck are you even talking about?
You said the university wasn't its own law ENFORCEMENT agency. To which I proved that they do have their own law enforcement agencies, and that they have full legal power to enforce all state laws AND enforce their own rules and regulations AS IF...
But they can make up their own rules and regulations, enforce them as laws, and lock you up in jail and put you on trial for breaking them.
Regardless, we weren't talking about MAKING laws. We were talking about enforcing the legal drinking age. Which they most certainly can do, since they...
Basically the state gives them the legal authority to enforce all state laws and enforce their own rules and regulations AS IF they were laws. Violations of those rules and regulations result in actual arrests with full legal arrest power.
It is an extremely weird legal loophole. Apparently...
No, I'm not missing that. That's exactly what I'm saying. URI and Brown have charters from the state that give them effectively the same powers as municipal corporations, the same as all other New England townships. There is no county-level governments in Rhode Island, so towns get to make...
That's like saying the City of Boston is a not a law enforcement agency.
It isn't. But it's a municipality with its own laws, and has it's own Department of Public Safety with it's own law enforcement agency and its own police force.
It is exactly the same for URI and Brown. They are...
You're being fucking retarded. It HAS its own law enforcement agency.
URI has it's own Department of Public Safety that is its ownlaw enforcement agencythat is ALSO adepartment of the University. No other municipality has law enforcement jurisdiction over any part of the university, even...
You're right. They're not their own legislature. Legislatures make laws. Law enforcement agencies enforce laws.
New England states are not like other parts of the country that have county-level government. Each municipality has its own independent law enforcement agency, and my university...
Our university has it's own police force separate from the surrounding town's municipal police force, and it's own Department of Public Safety separate from the surrounding town as well. Our campus cops aren't allowed to carry guns, because guns are banned from campus, even though they go...
I know my campus was safer when the on-campus bars were shut down in late 90s and we had strong alcohol bans into the early 2000s when I attended as an undergrad. We went from one of the rapiest campuses on the east coast to one of the safest campuses on the east coast just by implementing a...
I wasn't saying that. I was saying that if the accuser was using the 'I was drunk so I couldn't have consented' excuse, then there should be some repercussions for that.
Yeah, I'm glad you don't think it's a problem. If you were an 18 year old girl living on campus, away from your family and support structure for the first time in your life and scared to fucking death, you'd probably think differently.
The big problem with this thread is you guys are...
Well that's what I'm saying. The narrative needs to shift from 'zomg there's too much rape on campus' to 'zomg there's too much drinking on campus.'
But our media is sponsored by alcohol companies so that's not going to happen.
If she says she flatly didn't consent, then there would need to be evidence of forcible rape.
You're an idiot. What I'm saying is that "campus rape culture" has absolutely nothing to do with actual rape and everything to do with an extremely permissive attitude towards underage drinking...
I don't know why they're arguing with me when I'm trying to come up with ways to reduce the validity of the "I only consented because I was drunk" argument.
Exactly. So if the accuser doesn't admit to being drunk they can't use the 'I consented but only because I was drunk so I didn't really consent' argument. It's a way of eliminating that argument, which you guys all seemed to be in favor of eliminating for the past I dunno, 60 fucking pages...