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No everything was planned out and they knew this shit all along. They planned for 22 classes from the start, can't you see. How dare you question this are you some sort of troll.

Man shut the fuck up, they already admitted they were making shit up on the fly.. people started flipping the fuck out about no warrior and all of a sudden the Crusader became a 2 shield wearing tard Warrior archtype and the Paladin the other. Stop pretending that they had this shit in the pipe...

I am assuming you guys never really played FFXI but not every system is as shitty was what EQ2 tried.

Careful there people might start to think you are a troll if you tongue isn't shoved up Brads ass.

So thinking about how they backtracked and turned the current class lineup into subclasses with 2 different paths. If they somehow made the stretch goal of $1.75million not that there is a chance in hell. Wouldn't the classes already be bloated as fuck. 1. Cleric 2. Dark Knight 3. Crusader...

They are adding skill chains think Chrono Trigger or FFXI's Renkie, that was one of the more innovative things to come out of FFXI that I really loved, that and the way the handled the class system. Basically, certain combination of skills compliment others and when cast in order or at the same...

Nah, people like tangible items, that's why I suggested quite a few times that at least the teirs over $100 should get a physical copy of the game in the very least. Preferably a signed one from the whole team given how early into the project these people would be supporting. It's a pretty cheap...

Also as much as some hate to admit, World of Warcraft for the first few years was a fucking great game, and at the start it has performance issues as well mostly due to the fact they weren't expecting the load of players that they managed to attract, but it wasn't perfect out of the gate by any...

What's your point? I don't see a team of expert engineers at your hero's disposal so that must me this is going to be trash too.

Yeah people have already pointed out that even with todays level of equipment it still plays like shit. It wasn't just that the specs were to high it's that it was poorly programed.

Which goes back to the question people think I am trolling with. If this game guy couldn't put together a decent game with $40million and a large backer like Microsoft, what makes you think him and a rag tag group of unemployed garage warriors are going to produce something great on $800k making...

You know absolutely nothing about business if you think a game from a company as large Sony couldn't be unprofitable for a couple of years and simply used as a tax write off.

You sound kind of jaded from back then. While I do agree that plenty of the assholes bitching about backflagging didn't put in the work there were a few things such as blowable spawns that made it in some cases if you missed the first kill you might be waiting a few weeks to get your shot at...

I miss the crazy server guild drama and loot whores that lead to shit like this. Fennin Ro server was always good times.

PoP was some fun times, then again we were one of two guilds with access to elemental plans for a long time which helped in making it not suck. Coirnav was also a pretty gay encounter, although I think Rathe Council still takes the cake for biggest cockblock in MMO history.

Ah shit you are probably right it's been a long time, but the overall message stays the same. There are many things I am unsure of about EQNext but I know they had been talking a ton about dynamic content which is something that could turn out to be pretty awesome. Really, it's just the whole...

They might want to save them so they still have rewards to hand out for the 2nd-14th kickstarter to raise more money after they spend this all in a couple of months.

I don't think you would find that to be that unpopular of an opinion, there is more to these games than just raiding. When you focus on it to much you end up with WOW where pretty much that's all there is, and when that's all there is you have to devolve it down to LFR, FLEX, Normal, Heroic...

No nothing he has promised has been off the deep end at all but that's mostly do to the fact that they don't really seem to know the details yet. They can't go into specifics because all they have is a vague outline in Brads head or maybe a few things on paper, but as a whole it's being made up...

To me, it's just having the feeling of being in a different world so to speak. While I think Vanilla WoW was an amazing game there was just something about EQ that always stuck out that no other game ever did. I think much of it had to do with the fact that you typically played in first person...

I would rather people think I am a troll than white knighting Brad and Crew and pretend that they are shitting gold bricks like some of you guys, or are some like of last bastion of hope for a decent MMO. The only thing I have been rehashing for the last however many pages is the fact that there...

Yeah he tried to grab me here, and I didn't appreciate it.

I've said it before but Brad is the George Lucas of MMO's, dude had one decent idea and lucked himself into success thanks to those around him doing the hefty lifting. Everything since his first fluke has shown that he doesn't have what it takes.

Why do you all give a fuck, it was going to pledge great, if he wasn't that's cool too. It's no skin off anyone's balls here at fucking all. The only thing I think is a fucking joke was the fact kickstarter even contacted him in the first fucking place, unless they sent an email out to everyone...

You would think the 40 million dollar fuck up, would have humbled him first. Does the blatant lying and bullshit that comes from this guy really feel like that of a humbled man to you? The 800k still bothers me as does the retarded as stretch goals. Shit that needs to be in the game to function...

The reason I said reaching out to popular internet people, or old supporters with a following like GUcomics was a smart move is because it gets eyeballs to the page. It's fucking marketing 101. The same with the Reddit AMA and everything else we have been telling him to do. Sadly the posters...

Pretty fucking catchy, personally this should be what you hear at the character selection screen though..

Oh that's exactly what happened. They are doing their damnedest to un-fuck themselves and I have to admit what they have gotten today was a marked improvement. If they keep it up they might just get this thing funded in the end, of course at the end of the day they still started this thing on...

They need to give some love to that $750 tier if they ever want anyone to get it.

Well of course, I mean funding or not everyone pledging cash after seeing how little they have are willingly taking it up pooper.. but you have to admit this was a smart business move on their part.

I have to say this and reaching out to GU comics, and Boogie, or any other very popular figure is the first bright move I have seen from these guys so far.. Bravo.

Also it's kind of stupid in an MMO with thousands upon thousands of the same fallen hero.

I am genuinely curious as to how and why, and I don't mean that in a condescending way, but how can you like pretty much non-existent lore? If I am missing something please fill me in on the rich history of Pantheon.

You know they are gonna ride this turd all the way down the drain. If they were gonna pull it they would of at the start. I think egos are to big for that.

I like how the topic has turned and nobody gives a fuck about Pantheon anymore.

Really all of the old guard needs to go.. It would be nice to see some fresh blood in the MMO world.

Keep digging it sounds like you are getting to the bottom of this. Of course if you aren't careful you might invoke Lumie and it could turn out that Brad and Smed are lizard people and the only way to save ourselves is with garlic.

Or as I think someone said him and his group of garage warriors sat around watching "The Dark Night Rises" and "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" smoking weed and that's how we ended up here.

Yeah, if you liked what he accomplished with full control and $40 million dollars, then I bet you cant wait to see what he can pull off with $800k. There is no way this can do anything but help the kickstarter, maybe he can get Bill Gates to endorse him "Best 40million we ever spent."