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  1. fanaskin

    Waco pt2? Standoff in Nevada over cattle on BLM land

    counterpoint, without strong federal government we wouldn't be engaged in a world empire that's been running on a wartime budget (1/4 to 1/3rd defense spending) since the 1930's
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    Waco pt2? Standoff in Nevada over cattle on BLM land

    this is a pre civil war view of america as "these united states" and not "THE united states"
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    Waco pt2? Standoff in Nevada over cattle on BLM land

    well "patriots" are by definition insane I guess, they are willing to die for something, like good ole patrick henry. but like many people have pointed out there wasn't actually anything worth dying over here, because the guys whole legal argument is fairly damn flawed.
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    Waco pt2? Standoff in Nevada over cattle on BLM land

    of course they could roll in there with tanks if they really felt like it but it would provoke a response that would outweigh the benefit. I don't even really agree with the guy's premise, all i'm saying is if there is a cause that you may one day think is worth fighting for, look at what these...
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    Waco pt2? Standoff in Nevada over cattle on BLM land

    they've learned from the 60's-70's, they learned how to section off crowds and keep them divided so they can't form frenzied mobs. seriously look at how they broke up the occupy protests, there was a lot of thoughtful crowd control executed. Securitizing America: Strategic Incapacitation and...
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    the NY times is unskewed polls now? Rothman: Yet Another Crazy Conservative Conspiracy Theory Proven Correct | Mediaite
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    Waco pt2? Standoff in Nevada over cattle on BLM land

    that should show you the government will back off if you can organize and make a show of force, part of the difference between occupy wall streets peaceful protests being busted up and this? regardless of how shallow or stupid you may think this cause was, one should take note at the...
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    where does the revenue come from?
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    Waco pt2? Standoff in Nevada over cattle on BLM land

    I don't really support the guy
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    Waco pt2? Standoff in Nevada over cattle on BLM land

    You would think so right, apparently he hates the feds and tried to pay the state but they wouldn't take his money. Range war: BLM withdraws from Clark County, cattle released after standoff; Photo gallery | St George News
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    Waco pt2? Standoff in Nevada over cattle on BLM land

    Would the farm survive without being to graze on public lands? the government used to support the small farmer now it's all about corporations is the sentiment I believe, considering they've been grazing on public lands for over 100 years. there's something like 18,000 ranchers that graze on...
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    Can you talk more about this? far as I can tell Obama basically bent over to the insurance companies with 0 fight.
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    She said in an interview that she was staying till november like a week ago.
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    Rand paper on the ACA
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    Where is the Money Going? - 2% of Doctors Received 24% of Medicare Payments - AllGov - News
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    it's also basically the same amount of people insured as the day obama took office.
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    The NSA watches you poop.

    EU high court strikes down metadata collection law | Ars Technica
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    the greatest streak in sports history has come to an end

    You might as well stop beating around the bush and watch ballerina's if you enjoy choreography so much.
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    so much here.
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    War with Syria

    LiveLeak.com - Seymour Hersh Reveals Potential Turkish Role in Syria Chemical Strike That Almost Sparked US Bombing Hersh reveals the U.S. intelligence community feared Turkey was supplying sarin gas to Syrian rebels in the months before the attack took place - information never made public...
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    I agree that the AMA lobbies for the reason of keeping doctors artificially scarce to drive up the price of their labor but congress pays for most of it, so they control the purse strings. ? http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/...shortage_x.htm ~
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    The AMA doesn't directly restrict the amount of doctors entering the system, the AMA acts as a lobbying group, congress restricts the amount by controlling the funding of residencies.
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    The NSA watches you poop.

    Secret military device lets Oakland deputies track cellphones | The Detroit News
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    what don't you get?
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    America doesn't consume the oil from there, for the most part we never really have, it's our pimp hand. America's clients like japan and europe consume it and pay petro dollars for that consumption which provides the demand that allows massive amounts of money to be easily consumed even if you...
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    in Massachusetts when a similar law was passed Merlin it was observed how a large part of the signups occurred right before the deadline.
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    so why didn't they use the supreme court to not call obamacare a tax and avoid the law in the first place?
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    what did you find factually incorrect?
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    How Well Is Obamacare Covering The Uninsured? A Glass Half Empty Moment - Forbes
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    I'm sure it was smooth as silk signing up over the phone those first few months.
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    from a theoretical standpoint that would have been ridiculous because the websites weren't working?
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    see but here is where you pointed out that most people couldn't read and it wasn't as widely circulated so it wasn't having the same daily impact on everyone like a television does. I don't blame the television just like In the same abstract I don't blame a gun. I just look at it's...
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    and most of that time in the modern era was spent imprinting positive images of state power via propaganda techniques learned in places like the creel commision, if anything it's progressively masked the incompetence, marginalized and demoralized the population , the internet has kinda chipped...
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    no, the media was better back when it wasn't a infotainment centralized corporate conglomerate for profit. the shit they used to say in the 1800's was more sensational than now. seriously the activists in the 60's would have literally killed for tools like the internet but we are so...
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    It's been a staggering display of increasing mediocrity in presidents since FDR.
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    indignant shit response man I'm really glad this non-bullshitting non con-man liberal progressive laid it out on the line for the little guy. Miles Mogulescu: NY Times Reporter Confirms Obama Made Deal to Kill Public Option
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    And who frames those expectations for large masses of people? Obama could have say gone for a public option there's no reason why he couldn't have championed that cause that had overwhelming majority support, but instead he surrendered it for nothing without a fight, so he can cater to the real...
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    Watching people methodically explain their lowered expectations of government and the world is depressing.