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The problem here is this is an assumption and while it might be a decent one it would be much better if they took the time to spell it out. They could do what you said, or they could plan on selling it out once they get it far enough along that a major studio will buy it, or they could go on a...

I made this same point many pages back and then got bitched at by the McQuaid Brigade about how we're not investors and only need to be told things on a need to know basis.

Are you fucking serious? When a guy egotistical enough to brag about his 20+ years making iconic games like Everquest and blah blah, you would think simple shit like a business plan and/or an outline of what it would take to make this game would be the bare fucking minimum of shit to provide...

Come on some common fucking sense helps out here. People being hyped up is a good thing hearing Bard McQuaid is going to release a kickstarter is exciting news so of course people would clamor for it. Then when you are presented with nothing of substance followed by a fair bit of...

We both know there is fuck all coming down the pipeline, only games of even slight interest are Wildstar and EQN neither of which are going to offer the old school gaming style many of us are after. In a nutshell 90% of what people want is EQ with 2014 graphics and Blizzard level responsiveness...

No I am super serious I am pretty sure this PC Gamer interview will really turn it around forVangaurdPantheon

Here's your"surprise hit"while it might not have a PC Gamer interview at least they meet the requirements to be listed on Greenlight which is more than Pantheon can say.

I'm sorry I just don't buy the idea that it's this poorly executed idea or nothing at all. Maybe it isn't the old guard who will make the game we want, I would probably be best if we got some fresh blood making an MMO as long as they don't have a background in Marine Biology we might have a shot.

Sometimes it's better for all to put things out of their misery, than to let it die a slow meaningless death.

Maybe this is a better place for this game for the time being. Steam Greenlight : ConceptsThis section is intended for items looking to gather feedback from the potential customers and begin building a community. If you like projects here, feel free to rate them, favorite them, and leave...

I can somewhat follow this argument but not really. More than 1,500 people certainly would be excited to play a game with this type of concept. They might even pay to fund a game with this type of concept, but it's a very different thing to ask people to fund a concept itself. So many people...

They saw the kickstarter and started twisting selo's and bounced the fuck up on out of here.

It doesn't really have to much to live up too. As long as there is some actual fleshed out details about the game it will be an improvement on what we have seen so far. Reality though it's probably more along the lines of "Well our new game is like EQ but more badass and it's like Vangaurd...

Zoeii is the new Millie

But is DARK KNIGHT the best "MMO development experts" can come up with in 1/2 a years time? If so we need new "MMO development experters_01"

They wouldn't. You would think with so many people saying the same thing Brad could at least acknowledge the elephant in the room. Just a "hey guys I hear the feedback, I appreciate everyone's passion and we're working hard to correct some of the mistakes we had with this projects rocky start"...

This is how I am starting to feel about this Shitstarter Campaign. I like many others have repeatedly suggested taking this fucking thing down apologizing to the community, and being open. I mentioned that they need some fucking meat to this shit sandwich but instead Brad pops in once a day to...

Pull it down, explain to people they were excited and over zealous and it will be back up on January 27th or the beginning of February spend a week getting their shit together. Use that week to actually put a plan together, put some effort into the whole thing, talk to everyone they can, line up...

This is exactly why I am being critical of the whole thing, the thing I wish more people would think about is if those of us here are having doubts how does the average person who comes across this feel? It should be a no brainer for us, there should be enough information that everyone on this...

Yes, you are misunderstanding me. I agree nobody needs to know their business partners but it would be nice to know the actual scope of this project. We all know 800k wont cut it but what are they really after 10mil, 20mil, 100mil? What can they accomplish on what they are asking for now, again...

The $250 alpha tier is there I am as well, but the way the KS reads it is still easy for someone to think the lifetime sub is included in it. Since it says all previous tiers are included. Just another example of someone with a little writing experience and for-thought could have worked on...

Or just something as simple as an actual copy of the fucking game. Again no tier has it.

Are you really at the point of trying to argue bullshit semantics? If you are comfortable with the amount of information they have provided and think that will get them to the goal then I will happily sit back and watch this fucker crash and burn.

Oh I know that's all we're getting. I am supporting it anyways. I was just responding to the comments of people acting like I was asking for the names and contact info of different people. I was just trying to clarify again what I would like to see or what should be expanded on if they want more...

This isn't true at all. I never asked for names or any specific details. What I wanted to know and still want to know is what is planned. I donated anyways because I really would like to see this game made but really I probably could of spent that cast on the fucking lottery and gotten a better...

You are jumping the gun a little, first off this isn't a game it's a concept. I am sure there would be many more people who would plop down $45.00 today for a game but for something at least a few years off that's a whole different thing to ask of people. That being said also consider the fact...

Yeah still as is stands the $55 tier is pretty much a bust when the $45 one is much better. It's the same at $250 there is very little reason to jump up to the $500 amount.

No kidding, if he's been here lurking long enough you would almost expect some shit from posters. Hell Zoeii you are on your way to people jumping your shit and calling you out as a shill. That being said this forum wouldn't be this forum if everyone wasn't jaded and skeptical. Many of us have...

There really hasn't been much hate from here that I have seen, I mean we've always been a jaded bunch but the only other thread that blew up as fast as this one was EQ Next for a while. If you want to see people hating on a game check out the TESO thread. That being said we do need the...

Alright, what the hell then.

http://feature.mmosite.com/adultmmog/index2.shtml It's out there. Second Life and others.

Well that's almost exactly what I have been saying. Which is exactly why I am curious about this aspect. Would be nice to hear the plans from Brad directly, or at least some idea of what his plans are, and even with some initial funding a big publisher could still get their hands on many aspects...

It isn't like I haven't been following this thread, their Kickstarter, their post on Reddit ect, ect. I plan on donating a fair bit granted $500-1,000 isn't a lot of money but it's enough that I am going at at least think twice before I throw it away. Which is why I want to know what the long...

Like many others here the idea of this game sounds amazing but this Kickstarter approach just seems shitty coming from seasoned professionals in this industry. I mean why wouldn't you prep is a little better and hit up the forums a bit get at least a small group of support and time it with a...

Exactly, Verizon has a Transfer of Liability where they just switch everything over to the new account holders name. You see quite a few people with the old grandfathered unlimited LTE lines selling them on ebay between $200-$400. Thing is though once you get one of these phone lines you don't...

I just recently watched Shingeki no Kyojin and then caught up to date with the manga. I have to say it's a pretty cool story but whats with all of the manga's starting off with a pretty solid story and then jumping off into batshit insane about 2-3 seasons in?

You know after World of Warcraft had a straight up open stress test beta that anyone could join before the release date that should have caught on with every MMO maker out there. If you make a quality product you don't have to hide behind deleted threads and NDA's. What I would really be curious...

It's hard to figure out what the bitch is cry about. BOO HOO people are giving me money to play video games badly and show my underage cleavage. OH POOR ME. First world problems, shit must be tough these days.

This shit happens all the time in public games female or not, hell sometimes you get those games where nobody gets a courier until 20-30 minutes in. Even so I would take a stupid bitch playing a support badly over the worthless Brazilians shitting up the US servers.