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That's what most people ignore or forget. EQ dungeons were epic early. Later, it was paint by numbers spawn camping. Nothing exciting, scary, or interesting about camping a spawn in a dungeon. Nothing.

Thank you Tantrik! Using one of the smallest dungeons in WoW versus that behemoth isn't really telling any of the story. Everyone knows EQ has had the best dungeons overall but not all of WoW is point A to point B in 45 minutes. WoW also wasn't the first to put that bullshit in. LDoN anyone...

This is exactly where I'm at. I loved EQ but just like the mass of WoW clones, it wouldn't be a long term solution. Something new is exactly what this genre needs.

How in the fuck is anyone using subs as a basis for an argument in here? Do we really need to bring the 8000 ton gorilla in here? I do think it's funny that all the arguments from people who liked the emergent gameplay are always spouting off about having a hard group based game. None of the...

He's the holy trinity of gaming.

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I don't see how anyone could not see this as a scam. When Brad started the KS, did he do any research whatsoever? What planning and effort did Brad do after he was shit-canned by SOE? It looks like he took an extended vacation to me. Even after dozens of people told Brad to find anyone but...

Lol, Etchazz is even having fun with this! Towel officially thrown.

Oh, I agree that he will attempt something for the exact reasons you mention. I don't think it will ever finish or see any real success. Brad the con artist? Some success. Pantheon, the game? None.

I just don't see it. Sure, you can think this is your big break. Sure, Brad can try to take even more people's money. Now, let's hit reality for just a second. Who will pay to play these guy's game? Who will trust Brad to make a quality product? Where is the real hype for vaporware in an...

What exactly do they gain from this? Is this really a resume builder? Do they learn how to work with a valid team? Have a real game on their resume? I think you over estimate what 'working' with Brad really does for you. It didn't seem to do anything for the first team. But, sure, if they want...

Dreagan, Don't you have some shitty ideas you've been wanting to start up? Beck could give you some free airtime and the first $3500? Tyen, you've heard Beck. Why haven't you been shilling EQBrowser like mad? Honestly, I just want to see another melt down and it won't happen until Beck has...

Thread getting boring again. Frenzic, are you sure you have no pull with the others at THE pantheon website? We need some truly crazy shit in here and Frenzic Vs Beck or even Convo Vs kudos just isn't getting it done. With Brad hiding , we need something actually interesting or funny again.

Convo, That's probably what I dislike most about him. His unwillingness to sacrifice anything, He had the whole world on his platter and has wasted all that goodwill. His wife is in bad shape and he's unwilling to do what's needed to help her. He's unwilling to do the work. He's unwilling to...

Obviously, the finance guy is extremely part time too or the money wouldn't have went though Brad's paypal and he couldn't just skim 1/3 of the money at will. No true dev will touch this and none of the guys are coming back. There are real opportunities out there so why waste time and effort on...

Let's not give credit to Brad for the wonderful properties of garlic. Unless, Brad is the Gaming God who first brought forth this magical plant?

Voted for you as well. Very nice. Need to get back in this some.

Did his wife suddenly get cancer back in the middle of what was really a 3 month project though? Did, at any point in this scam, Brad work hard to make a game? Was Brad honest to his employees? To his investors? During KS? After? NO! Brad never intended to make a game with this money. This was...

Lol, while you are at Frenzic, can you ask him if I can use Tucobucks to donate to his game? C'mon guys! Help me be an apprentice developer too!! Edit: Can't believe Tuco took out lame Tucobucks for netz. Just shit on a man's dream why don't you Tuco!!!!!

Wish I had really been involved then. Looked occasionally but that was when I was hardcore WoW. Of course that was when WoW was still pretty damn good.

I think focusing on the 'demo' by Ktam is pretty dumb. Of course $800k won't make a game and the money is better spent on a demo. Of course, we all know $150 k worth of work wasn't put into this game. I'd put 100% of my effort into that aspect and push Brad about filing fraud changes against...

So... Ktam...how's it feel to be hustled for over 3 grand and get kicked out of your only 'news' source on the net? Juicy....

Brad has conquered the entity that was Ktam and now is moving for the rest of the world!!! hahahahahaha! No one can stop me now! KS II, you are mine! Ktam is a pretty giant pussy. Reminds me of that other douche Robert whatever, whatever on youtube.

What?! Do you not care for the feelings of your fellow posters? Is not our personal enjoyment a factor here? I'm disappointed Frenzic.

That's where I disagree. I think he knows exactly what he's doing. He's also hoping there are enough stupid people for him to try it again and again.

Exactly. I'd play Archage or Black Desert in a heartbeat before I'd play whatever vaporware Brad is selling. Both of those games look promising as does Camelot/Shroud.

Lol, K-TAM cracks me up. I love where he's trying to call out other sites for not putting out a good argument. Buddy...that's because there is no good argument. That is not $150,000 of work and who is giving more? No one. I think he's just in it for the ratings now but keep it coming. We'll try...

Since we all know Brad doesn't do homework, who wants to send Brad a fake resume?

I wish Brad all the luck in the world with this next adventure. What's the old saying about fool me once( twice, three times, etc) in this instance? How many times of " my mistake, should have done that earlier" can people possibly believe?

Whew, yeah, it might but who's going to fall for it again? There's only so many old lady's out there who can see the Vision!!

Lol, Convo! Good stuff buddy! Yeah I can't believe I wanted to end this party. Brad, thank you delivering! Nirtixx, please have more money saved up somewhere. Sell your car. Save the Brad!

Now this is what I get on this thread to see.

I don't know how he ever accomplished anything with the incredibly thin skin he has. Of course, he did basically run from any responsibility in the last 2 games he attempted. Imagine how good this would have went if most of the money actually went into the work instead of his pocket? Same old Brad.

I'm wondering if the little old retired lady suddenly learned about reverse mortgages and is the $50k donation? Brad talks about all the laid off developers but he had the opportunity to hire some of these guys and get some kind of product out there. Instead, he took almost $100 k in a...

Sometimes you have to increase side characters's parts just to keep things fresh. The idea was very solid because I liked old Pam and Cheryl. Too bad they decided to increase their screen time while decreasing what made them funny in the beginning. Having the same jokes over and over while...

I see H1 is going with very dark environments and I'm sure EQN will pull off the same type of environments. The level of accessibility will be different but both games have me excited. Adebisi, I really hope they go in that direction. The constant tension from zombies plus other players will...

Lol, well I got one thread shawed so that's something. Still don't know why it can't be put in the EQ subforum with the other EQ related circle jerking.

Not only that but it would be so easy to implement solutions that aren't 'denial of service'. In the early levels have a torch auto included for everyone. People then have the choice of using or not using. Have a limited area of vision like all light sources at night. Have the intro area start...

Late reply but I'd love for my nights to be dark and my days to be light unless there's a world based reason for it not to be so. Do I want some fear in my fantasy based game but it's only allowed in the zombie game?

They already backed down in Landmark about grappling hooks. If we are loud enough, they probably will adjust the lighting in EQN. I think it's ridiculous to nerf it in one game and sell it in another. On topic, that was pretty nice.