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They can demand anything they want. They won't get a penny back though. As you said, no financial accountability and that's just the way it should be.

Same here.

I personally want to give a shit about story again but which setting needs less background story? Bunch of racial starting cities with a rich tradition, or coming back to a continent your ancestors fled with no knowledge of what it's like? I personally love the ideas this team has put forth...

This just shows you haven't been following this game. This isn't EQ re-skinned. For the storyline they have created, the EQ2 set-up of a starting island is far superior New players and alts can start at the rebuilt racial cities. Unless they change the story(very doubtful), starting cities make...

EQL is telling players exactly what they are doing. SOE is being blunt and very open about goals and what is happening. Now, this may not fit the easy, generic hate of the past decade but it's time to let go. New game, better results lately, and a new direction.

I also think this game should be released in maybe 3 months. They are fixing issues but more issues remain than I'd be comfortable with out of a major release. Unless, the true focus is on the console release. Since the bar on original content hasn't been raised, it should run really well out of...

Glad I'm not the only person who basically hates this season. Still watch it because it's just 20 minutes of crap but there's been very little funny over the entire season. Some earlier episodes were weak in generally fairly strong seasons but this has been almost total shit every episode. Time...

Fox usually makes some pretty poor decisions. If it wasn't for the regurgitated slop they've kept forever, Fox would probably be fighting for NBC for last place. Dads, Rake and several other newer shows didn't have near the ratings of AH. They love killing good shows.

I'd watch that. Is Tara Reid in it?

Damn, maybe that's why my wife doesn't ask for my help with puzzles.

Booze, I'm fucking pissed I haven't heard anymore about your Groupquest game! Fucking getting to be like your hero Brad McQuaid or something. Next thing I know, you'll just leave and expect me to pay $15 monthly for the privilege of your insights. On other thoughts, those maps look nothing...

The map is well done and while some of the names sound a bit generic, it still really looks nice. I completely disagree that it looks much different than before though. Nicer, indeed. Different? I don't see it. I think the land area is exactly what a small game needs for the early stages. We...

Got a key and thanks!

I don't think it will be hugely difficult but I'm hoping for it to be at least as difficult as Vanilla was in 2004. I think they want to up the difficulty closer to EQ and the trends really do allow them to initially push this. It really is up to the player-base though. No surprise there. We can...

Great post after a bunch of great posts on here. Do some fucking work and we'll judge based off said work. Do jack shit and get called for it every time. Frenzic, Couldn't agree more about the management comment and I thought Brad mentioned them getting one? That's my question you can...

Usually, when you want back-pay, you have something to show for it. Usually, when even ONE person is working on something for 6 months, they can figure out how their primary funding source works while also having some basic concepts, artwork, etc fleshed out. Sure, if I was a scam artist, I'd...

Why would they rearrange content for the WoW PvP type players? The guys that can't handle that hard 7 hours to get to content they like? So, that they can then complain about the game being an everything for everyone game while they push for exactly that kind of game? The complaint that PvE for...

I have to agree with this. Whining about having to waste a few hours from a hardcore MMO forum is pretty stupid. If the PvP is worth it, it's worth it right? Starting at level one feeds the WoW crowd who needs instant gratification. I just don't see any other way of putting it. If you really...

I'm with mkopec on this. Their site even says Brad is in FULL ON development mode and that last video by Nuthugger 101 mentioned they had a FULL ON business meeting with snacks! I don't know what you haters are spouting about but this is huge! Brad has never let us down and his FULL ON concepts...

I'm in the same situation. Haven't really put a lot in during the last 10 days and it's time I starting getting those templates ready.

Nice to have in this thread. I don't know the strategy going forward on starting cities but prefer the original concept of actually having to move 'the war machine' to the original site, winning a battle, and then rebuilding the city. Hopefully, building will be similar to EQL and people have...

I find SOE is being innovative with Storybricks and is going to improve on innovative games that have come before. EQL is a vast improvement on minecraft and the supposed future focus on exploration hasn't been seen in at least a decade. The rebuilding a world push in EQN hasn't been attempted...

I think you will be pleasantly surprised in a few years.

Yeah, EQN is going to be amazing. I'd love to see how much they allow the players to rebuild after retaking ancestral homes. It sounds like a lot and nothing could make me happier.

First, that is the worst example of focused I've ever seen professionally attempted in any field. Seriously. 6+ months for this? What's the timeline? 2025? Vanguard had some really awesome ideas. Loved a couple classes and the dungeons were better than average overall. Unfortunately, the GAME...

Really good post and the crux of this argument. No one truly knows what an old EQ style game could garner in interest. There is plenty of circumstantial evidence that could go either way. The only true evidence right now is that no one is trying to make an old style EQ game. I include this group...

At least Bard and Archer of Love are now verified. Thanks Booze!

Yeah, my old sig needed changed and bob inspired me with his feverous defense of the unseen. I might have converted if only I had seen one miracle! Maybe a combat doc or some other outlandish craziness.

We are pretty sure the underlined statement is always going to be true. What we want is the juicy crazy that comes with being an apprentice developer. Frenzic, can you provide our entertainment for the foreseeable future? It pays nothing and has few benefits but at least you aren't paying us to...

Quaid, I'll make a deal with you. How about you be our insideCHAMPIONand when Brad finds that angel investor...you just show your superior amount of work put in and steal the guy? You can call yourself Brad Quaid and say the lost letters in your last name ensures that you are a better leader...

Definitely interested now. That's a lot of work! Can I write your first novel or novella?

Sounds really cool. I loved shadows of the colossus! Is it named Panquest, Fall of the Risen by chance?

Well, got an invite and didn't really want to give it a try...until I heard some of the positive responses lately. Will try it and see.

Lol, that is incredible! They have lost 75% of their paying support within just a few weeks! Can Brad work harder to make it 80% Go BRAD!! Go Vaseline! Go apprentice sorcerers, golden children, purple pansies or whatever.

I agree. I think EQN will be pretty damn good as well

So Vaseline blames us for Brad being incompetent and everyone else has realized this game just doesn't have the funding or leadership to actually get made. Good times! So, I'm wondering if SOE actually succeeds at making EQL a hub of player based creativity, who is going to build the next EQ...

Yep, sounded just like a_skeleton_03's BS. Wonder if he has a GF named Tiffany...

Or for a group of people who couldn't even put together a competent KS even after 40 days, any real work on their 'game' after 6 months, etc,etc...maybe they just suck at getting it together. I know, new theory here.

I think they are really busy with EQN and it will be separate. EQL is the foundation of the future. EQN will be the example of what can be done, and their love-child. EQN will be the shot right at Blizzard telling them, 'round 2 is ours'. I really can't wait to see the endgame for EQL. Maybe...

LoL! +1