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Didn't you guys just pillory me for saying this was not a casual board? 🙃 40 hours a week is a full time job, not a hobby.

Who are you arguing with? I don't think there are any p99 purists in the thread. Some people are just annoyed that EQL sucks and that THJ had to die so this lesser, daybreak sanctioned, turd could be shat out. Some people think it's stupid to pay for a glorified emu. Some people hate Secrets for...

This is just incorrect. You can keep talking like you guys know something, but you're just wrong. The case that 'a small percent of people do M+/raiding' just reinforces that a disproportionate amount of dev resources then go to a minority. To any reasonable person, the outsized developer...

Do you play WoW and 14 ? As someone with active subs on all three, I can tell you that is certainly not the case. WoW (both live and classic/SoD) railroad you towards 'high end' content. M+, Mythic raiding, etc. Delves/Prey/Rituals exist as a catch up, without hitting the highest ilvl gear and...

This is just factually wrong. The only profitable MMOs are all either extreme end game dungeoning, RWF raiding or PvP shitfests. What 'casual' mmos are out there that are surviving on fairweather dad players?

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And people ridicule people who eat a lot of mcdonalds, the same way they should ridicule the room temperature IQ having morons supporting this. Every person posting in support of EQL has had terrible takes and can't even defend it other than some homosexual "shh let people enjoy things" bs. The...

The main difference between the moral panic of the late 90s/early 00s was that the content creators were aligned against the censors and rightly ridiculed them. In the modern era, the call is coming from inside the house.

Their solution is to never make it past kunark

Would track. Also the raid instances will most likely have a longer cooldown so they can keep you subbed longer. This is gearing up to be a great experience for people who haven't played in 20+ years or who don't have any friends to have done it in the last 10+ years of tlp. lol

That's in line with THJ, where you had 'respawning' and 'non-respawning' instances. Respawning was just normal mobs and rares and good for xp grinding/crawling, non-respawning was like a modern DZ where things didn't respawn but the main bosses would be up in that instance.

You gotta pre-order it, it might sell out!

That's always the case here. We're so addicted we've spent the entire development cycle of Pantheon (several lifetimes) posting gifs of people falling over. It's a sad state where just the hint of anything MMO adjacent is all we get to slake our thirst.

I don't mind 20k+ posters, but I don't go into the politics thread and post mid takes on femboys or trump or incels or whatever is causing you guys to murder your father in laws. All I ask is we are shown the same courtesy. My positive ratio was forged in the mundane fires of on-topic mmo...

I still think anyone who posts outside of MMORPG General Discussion should have a 1 day cooldown on any posts in here.

With dragon hoard and insta-sell, what would bags even get you? Also people tend to talk past each other in these conversations. There is the ideological argument that P2W and pay for convenience are bad, then there is the practical argument on whether you should support games that do it. I...

Will be interesting to see how successful they are. I argued this with Turtle, but the 'market' for stuff like this doesn't really overlap with live. The people who play free emu tend to be either a) people who already pay for live/classic and just are ALSO doing emus or b) people who are not...

No one needs you here chiming in going "neat" and "oh that's cool", you add nothing to the thread. This thread is for talking shit about a bad EQ game. You can have the entire conversation you're having with moonarchia in DMs since you two are the only ones who give a shit to talk about the bad...

Most of the testers probably would just not play vs starting over on live or continuing to play on test.

OOC combat being in tlps from launch really killed the wizard afk lifestyle.

Goodbye little bro. We'll miss the hard hitting commentary like "hey this might be fun, I think BRD will be popular" from someone who didn't play THJ nor EQL.

"Classic THJ sucked so it's ok that EQL sucks"

Exactly this. The entire THJ bs is a histrionic tantrum from emu devs who can't believe that 'outsiders' came in and did something infinitely better than their string of failed turd servers. So they went and told mommy and now they are forcing you to play THEIR version of it so you can see just...

Yeah be careful, the weirdos who post outside of MMO general might kill you in cold blood. Anyone who posts outside of this section should be met with distain. It's bad enough talking to mmo fans about mmos, talking about literally anything else is insanity.

Watching streams, I am wondering who the target audience is and if they did a viability study other than 'thj made a lot of money'. Time to kill is slow and it suffers from the same problem as MnM, if you don't already know how to play EQ, you're going to have a bad time. There are too many noob...

If you didn't play THJ what are you talking about it like you know anything about it? They solve this by never getting to velious.

Pretty sure people were stuck just farming hate for weeks until Kunark came out. Here they'll be farming it for months. I don't know that there is enough content to keep people subbed until Dec for Kunark. They really should have just gone for a box sale + mtx with pots/bags. Then they could at...

Very few AAs, and watching Broken Stoic's stream he said there is no way to adjust what % is going towards AA points, so you just kind of always passively earn them. Not sure how many you'll have by 50, but I know THJ you would pause in 'good' level ranged and go full AA since your kill rate vs...

Exactly the point we're making in this thread. They're making it purposefully slow/worse to milk subscription money. When AAA studios do that, people are up in arms, when DBG does it, it's just a more chill and relaxed experience than THJ brah. It's mobile style, exploitative monetization and...

Why have any lockout at all on the idealized solo MMO experience with zero win conditions you guys are all claiming this is? Would you play a single player game that limited how many times you could play it a week?

Part of THJ's charm (and why HO will have a harder time) is that it finally gave access to a lot of 'group restricted' content that scrubs could finally access on their own. If EQ wasn't ""hard"" and exclusive to begin with, there'd be no excitement in being able to do it solo. The game built...

You forgot "don't play"

I'd be cool if they came up with a similar system but you don't keep the gear.

Defending it is wild. Of course there are ways around it. You can eat a big pile of shit if you plug your nose and cover it in powdered sugar too. Maybe instead of telling people how to unlock new characters (obvious) you say, "yeah that is retarded and the devs have their heads up their ass".

This is always their MO. When they 'nerfed' AE PLing, they did it by adding a shared cooldown to enchanter point blank stuns. Now you can't cycle through 3 different color spells and lock down the pack of mobs in the pull. Finally, RMT powerleveling is dead! Oh wait, all that did was move it so...

Grandpa, are you lost again?

A few of us played pantheon a year or so ago and it was 'fine'. A serviceable 'old school mmo' but with enough modern stuff that it kind of violated the original 'vision'. Do these changes with the hotbars and stuff further move things into wow land, or are they being nuanced about it?

Part of the fun of THJ was that at some point it basically made EQ almost an ARPG. Just mowing down mobs. Would involve some serious changes to the underlying mechanics, combat abilities, etc to really get interesting stuff. THJ Seru/Sleeper come to mind as a way to attempt it. Problem, as...