2025-2026 NFL Season Thread - God hates the Chargers

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you wouldn't think the Bills ownership could fuck this up even more, but here we are, wow.
 
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Not a Bills fan. Explain to me again how this isn't a catch for the receiver? He has control as soon as the ball hits his hands, control to the ground, control during his roll, and doesn't lose the ball until its ripped away from him. Defender never had any possession until the receiver was on his back, and that's when he ripped it out of his hands. It was a catch lol, all time robbery - i have no clue how they don't at least give that a long booth review.

 
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Slow motion has ruined the ability of people to review plays correctly. He maybe has the ball for a tenth of a second upon hitting the ground. That sure as hell isn’t a catch.

Here is a solid breakdown:


Here it is in real time. From the ball hitting his hands to the DB rolling free with the ball maybe one second passes in total.
 
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Rule book doesn't say anything about how long you have to possess the ball to "survive the ground." I say he had control, "survived the ground," and then the DB ripped it out of his hands when he was down. The guy in the video, whoever he is with his 339 subscribers lol, says after he hits the ground he doesn't have the ball. Yes, he does. He hits the ground, rolls over - while he's on his back, the receiver still has possession of the ball and then the DB starts to rip it away. He survived the ground, tie goes to the receiver, its a catch.
 

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Not a Bills fan. Explain to me again how this isn't a catch for the receiver? He has control as soon as the ball hits his hands, control to the ground, control during his roll, and doesn't lose the ball until its ripped away from him. Defender never had any possession until the receiver was on his back, and that's when he ripped it out of his hands. It was a catch lol, all time robbery - i have no clue how they don't at least give that a long booth review.


That isn't new footage, it's the exact same angle that was shown the day of the game just slightly zoomed and honestly the fact that you're framing this as a black and white "this was absolutely a catch" situation means your opinion is completely worthless. I think it should have been ruled a catch based on what the ref would have been able to see in real time but I can at least acknowledge it's a muddy grey area rather than definitely a catch or definitely a pick.
 
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This sounds like a solid case of;
The NFL refs came after the Oilers, but I didn't care because the Oilers sucked.
The NFL refs came after the Lions, but I didn't care because the Lions sucked.
The NFL refs came after the Packers, but I did not care because I'm not a faggot.
The NFL refs came after The Lords of No Rings but......

Eventually, the NFL might figure out what constitutes a catch, and then teach the refs, but it's been 46 years and Mike Renfro is already 70. I wouldn't hold my breath. By their labyrinthine rules it was....murky.
 
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This sounds like a solid case of;
The NFL refs came after the Oilers, but I didn't care because the Oilers sucked.
The NFL refs came after the Lions, but I didn't care because the Lions sucked.
The NFL refs came after the Packers, but I did not care because I'm not a faggot.
The NFL refs came after The Lords of No Rings but......

Eventually, the NFL might figure out what constitutes a catch, and then teach the refs, but it's been 46 years and Mike Renfro is already 70. I wouldn't hold my breath. By their labyrinthine rules it was....murky.
The tuck rule is calling. Fuck the refs.
 
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I'll say this, a Ravens fan buddy showed me this and was laughing about the difference b/c refs bailed out Rodgers with this call during their 1st game (I think it was the fist) this year.

 
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I'll say this, a Ravens fan buddy showed me this and was laughing about the difference b/c refs bailed out Rodgers with this call during their 1st game (I think it was the fist) this year.


iirc one of the rules commentators said the refs got it wrong and it should have been a pick.
 

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iirc one of the rules commentators said the refs got it wrong and it should have been a pick.

I think they actually reviewed this, too. Just goes to show they need to figure out how to not let refs fuck it up and keep it consistent.
 
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Foggy

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Rule book doesn't say anything about how long you have to possess the ball to "survive the ground." I say he had control, "survived the ground," and then the DB ripped it out of his hands when he was down. The guy in the video, whoever he is with his 339 subscribers lol, says after he hits the ground he doesn't have the ball. Yes, he does. He hits the ground, rolls over - while he's on his back, the receiver still has possession of the ball and then the DB starts to rip it away. He survived the ground, tie goes to the receiver, its a catch.
Down by contact does not apply when the WR doesn’t make a football move before going to the ground. He has to complete the process of the catch. He hits the ground and near instantly loses the ball.
 
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The NFL likes rules vague, specifically because it generates "engagement".
Not to mention you can use murky, vague rules and subjective calls to swing billions of dollars in sports betting... That becomes a lot harder if you don't have gray areas to work with.
 
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Not a Bills fan. Explain to me again how this isn't a catch for the receiver? He has control as soon as the ball hits his hands, control to the ground, control during his roll, and doesn't lose the ball until its ripped away from him. Defender never had any possession until the receiver was on his back, and that's when he ripped it out of his hands. It was a catch lol, all time robbery - i have no clue how they don't at least give that a long booth review.



Yeah. He has to HAVE the ball when he hits the ground. He did not.
 

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Slow motion has ruined the ability of people to review plays correctly. He maybe has the ball for a tenth of a second upon hitting the ground. That sure as hell isn’t a catch.

Here is a solid breakdown:


Here it is in real time. From the ball hitting his hands to the DB rolling free with the ball maybe one second passes in total.

It's also worth noting that last year this would have been a catch, because tucking the ball away was a football move, so he'd have been down by contact. They changed the definition this year to tucking the ball away and turning upfield. He didn't satisfy the second condition.

Looks like the refs got the call right to me.